New Setup + Dyno numbers
Jordo,
with all due respect, there comes a time when you will have to stop swaping out so many parts. You are almost as hard as a women to please. Again, no disrespect just advice from an old guy...
art
with all due respect, there comes a time when you will have to stop swaping out so many parts. You are almost as hard as a women to please. Again, no disrespect just advice from an old guy...
art
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jordo,
with all due respect, there comes a time when you will have to stop swaping out so many parts. You are almost as hard as a women to please. Again, no disrespect just advice from an old guy...
art</TD></TR></TABLE>
Agreed...
I wanna see this run already. I swear this is like his 4th or 5th badass setup. i wanna see some high boost number and track times..
with all due respect, there comes a time when you will have to stop swaping out so many parts. You are almost as hard as a women to please. Again, no disrespect just advice from an old guy...
art</TD></TR></TABLE>
Agreed...
I wanna see this run already. I swear this is like his 4th or 5th badass setup. i wanna see some high boost number and track times..
OMFG! I just had a crazy thought, Why did you swap from the best manifold on the market to whatever that thing is? If there is one thing I dont like about the lovefab manifolds it has to be the outlet flanges. Have you measured the outlet size vs a T4 inlet. WTF!
How could that be better?
How could that be better?
must not be hurting much if power was still made
Reguardless, we can do whatever flange the customer chooses. Making another one right now that uses a dedicated T4 flange, only T4 holes.
If power is down from where it "should" be with the T3 outlet size, we will swap the manifold out to see if the power is back up to par. My predictions are that the power will be very nice!
Also, if Jordo ran a 4" exhaust, Im sure the benefits would be even nicer. As it sits, the 4" downpipe flares back down to 3", out a Thermal exhaust. Some argue this increases velocity, etc, but from what Ive learned through my 3 years here is bigger is better
Reguardless, we can do whatever flange the customer chooses. Making another one right now that uses a dedicated T4 flange, only T4 holes. If power is down from where it "should" be with the T3 outlet size, we will swap the manifold out to see if the power is back up to par. My predictions are that the power will be very nice!
Also, if Jordo ran a 4" exhaust, Im sure the benefits would be even nicer. As it sits, the 4" downpipe flares back down to 3", out a Thermal exhaust. Some argue this increases velocity, etc, but from what Ive learned through my 3 years here is bigger is better

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deca »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">may i ask, what does having 2 wastegate do?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Allow the manifold to evacuate enough energy to slow the turbo down enough to NOT spike to 14psi when youre trying to run only 7psi. This is a bad thing if you care about low boost...
Allow the manifold to evacuate enough energy to slow the turbo down enough to NOT spike to 14psi when youre trying to run only 7psi. This is a bad thing if you care about low boost...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo@KAP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jordo from kohlerperformance.com tuned it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you always refer to yourself in the third person? lol
Do you always refer to yourself in the third person? lol
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Do you always refer to yourself in the third person? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaah I was gonna say something about that
I agree with the not worth the change.
Is the boost holdig now though with just one wastegate?
Do you always refer to yourself in the third person? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaah I was gonna say something about that
I agree with the not worth the change.
Is the boost holdig now though with just one wastegate?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Do you always refer to yourself in the third person? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol.....props for tuning it jordo
post some car shots!
Do you always refer to yourself in the third person? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol.....props for tuning it jordo
post some car shots!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tinker219 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">must not be hurting much if power was still made
Reguardless, we can do whatever flange the customer chooses. Making another one right now that uses a dedicated T4 flange, only T4 holes.
If power is down from where it "should" be with the T3 outlet size, we will swap the manifold out to see if the power is back up to par. My predictions are that the power will be very nice!
Also, if Jordo ran a 4" exhaust, Im sure the benefits would be even nicer. As it sits, the 4" downpipe flares back down to 3", out a Thermal exhaust. Some argue this increases velocity, etc, but from what Ive learned through my 3 years here is bigger is better
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Lovefab
Reguardless, we can do whatever flange the customer chooses. Making another one right now that uses a dedicated T4 flange, only T4 holes. If power is down from where it "should" be with the T3 outlet size, we will swap the manifold out to see if the power is back up to par. My predictions are that the power will be very nice!
Also, if Jordo ran a 4" exhaust, Im sure the benefits would be even nicer. As it sits, the 4" downpipe flares back down to 3", out a Thermal exhaust. Some argue this increases velocity, etc, but from what Ive learned through my 3 years here is bigger is better

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Lovefab
This is a weird post.. Yes Jordan - you got love from H-T.. But you complain about being broke and not being able to finish your set up etc, then your swapping parts out like a mother. I dont understand why switch from a T3 to a full T4 with a .58? Whats the theory?
Anyways - it looks good, I hope the tune that you put on it is good. Good luck - keep us updated.
Anyways - it looks good, I hope the tune that you put on it is good. Good luck - keep us updated.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahaah I was gonna say something about that
I agree with the not worth the change.
Is the boost holdig now though with just one wastegate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
holds 5psi, what the springs is.
I agree with the not worth the change.
Is the boost holdig now though with just one wastegate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
holds 5psi, what the springs is.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jerseykid609 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, at least its not blown up. yet
For a guy who less then a year ago complained about having limited money you sure are changing parts alot. </TD></TR></TABLE>
alot can change in a year. I now relie on myself rather then others. I tune my car, i do all the mechanic work.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jerseykid609 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, at least its not blown up. yet </TD></TR></TABLE>
why dont you let me worry about that?
For a guy who less then a year ago complained about having limited money you sure are changing parts alot. </TD></TR></TABLE>
alot can change in a year. I now relie on myself rather then others. I tune my car, i do all the mechanic work.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jerseykid609 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, at least its not blown up. yet </TD></TR></TABLE>
why dont you let me worry about that?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOOLINmatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">9 psi and 350whp, what the **** is your compression
props to you</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think 9:1
Oh, my bad. It must be like 11:1 for it to make good power like that
props to you</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think 9:1
Oh, my bad. It must be like 11:1 for it to make good power like that
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think 9:1
Oh, my bad. It must be like 11:1 for it to make good power like that
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Oh, my bad. It must be like 11:1 for it to make good power like that
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">None of these picture's your trying to show are working
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refresh
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nice numbers.. question about the top mount manifold, will the manifold crack or break due to so holding up that heavy turbo? is that manifold reliable and how much did you get it for?
The collector looks weird on that manifold. It looks like #2 and #3 come it at like a 15 degree angle ACROSS the collector. Are there any better pictures that show the collector angle more clearly?
I'm running the same turbo in my car. It reacts about the same way as it looks on your dyno chart where it doesn't do much until about 200 RPM before it gets to full boost, then it hits all at once. I like it, but I definitely see it being a restriction and I plan to go up a size or two after getting a dyno run in on it.
Also, you changed A/Fs quiet a bit between the "low" boost pulls (even though they are both way low boost anyway).
I'm running the same turbo in my car. It reacts about the same way as it looks on your dyno chart where it doesn't do much until about 200 RPM before it gets to full boost, then it hits all at once. I like it, but I definitely see it being a restriction and I plan to go up a size or two after getting a dyno run in on it.
Also, you changed A/Fs quiet a bit between the "low" boost pulls (even though they are both way low boost anyway).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99_GS-T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The collector looks weird on that manifold. It looks like #2 and #3 come it at like a 15 degree angle ACROSS the collector. Are there any better pictures that show the collector angle more clearly?
I'm running the same turbo in my car. It reacts about the same way as it looks on your dyno chart where it doesn't do much until about 200 RPM before it gets to full boost, then it hits all at once. I like it, but I definitely see it being a restriction and I plan to go up a size or two after getting a dyno run in on it.
Also, you changed A/Fs quiet a bit between the "low" boost pulls (even though they are both way low boost anyway).</TD></TR></TABLE>
also, this was a test manifold..
there is always improvement after the 1st one.
edit: this manifold was actually to my spec also. I wanted to try some theroies to see if i could improve spool up time. Lovefab just made it for me.
I'm running the same turbo in my car. It reacts about the same way as it looks on your dyno chart where it doesn't do much until about 200 RPM before it gets to full boost, then it hits all at once. I like it, but I definitely see it being a restriction and I plan to go up a size or two after getting a dyno run in on it.
Also, you changed A/Fs quiet a bit between the "low" boost pulls (even though they are both way low boost anyway).</TD></TR></TABLE>
also, this was a test manifold..
there is always improvement after the 1st one.edit: this manifold was actually to my spec also. I wanted to try some theroies to see if i could improve spool up time. Lovefab just made it for me.
Your a mad man. Good job on tuning yourself that is impressive. I guess changing out so many setups will definitely give you first hand experience which is a good thing if you are selling products.
Just don't go pleading poverty anytime soon.
Modified by turbozxi at 6:44 PM 6/18/2005
Just don't go pleading poverty anytime soon.
Modified by turbozxi at 6:44 PM 6/18/2005



