Tjabo

The kind that claim to be "computer balanced." Just curious if anyone has messed with them yet?

I'm probably not going to buy one, since I already have a nice turbo, but I'm curious, and looking for a good thread to read today. eBay turbo threads can be entertaining! Hah hah. . .

But really!

TiAL

they can claim anything, are you actually going to believe it is the question

96 GSR-T

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lol well said

SovXietday

Meh, not really that far fetched of an idea that they would be able to afford and use a computerized shaft balancer IMO.

Who knows.

93CX

Link to what you're refering to?

96 GSR-T

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SovXietday &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Meh, not really that far fetched of an idea that they would be able to afford and use a computerized shaft balancer IMO.

Who knows.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so balanced junk is worth more than unbalanced junk?

welding

iTrader: (-1)

This is coming from someone with 2 HT posts, GO FOR IT. THERE BAD *** TURBOS.

this makes me think of the advertisements for drugs.

This drug is the best drug ever made.
warning: may cause death, the ***** for weeks, and perhaps a bonar for 48 hours

Buy top of the line cheep turbos.
warning: it is a bad idea to use this turbo on your only car!!! may crack into 748.99 pieces causing death, injury to your engine, and perhaps humiliation when propping up your hood at car shows.

93CX

^^ uhhh.. what?


Anyway, salvage this thread with a link please I want to see what you're talking about

sohczcturbo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by welding &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is coming from someone with 2 HT posts, GO FOR IT. THERE BAD *** TURBOS.

this makes me think of the advertisements for drugs.

This drug is the best drug ever made.
warning: may cause death, the ***** for weeks, and perhaps a bonar for 48 hours

Buy top of the line cheep turbos.
warning: it is a bad idea to use this turbo on your only car!!! may crack into 748.99 pieces causing death, injury to your engine, and perhaps humiliation when propping up your hood at car shows.</TD></TR></TABLE>

bahaha, coming from the guy that only has 3 ht posts

Alright, you get what you pay for, plain and simple. Please post a link so we can take a look. Odds are it's junk. But in some cases I've seen people rebuilding name brand turbos and putting them on ebay, sooo, a link might solve the dilema.

Tjabo

Sorry, I ended up being out of the office all day right after I posted my initial post, so I haven't been able to enjoy what has definitely turned out to be an entertaining thread!

Anyway, yep, I'll see if I can come up with a link for one of these turbos to further the discussion.

Really, I was interested to see if anyone has tried any of these possibly newer generation, and had obtained different reliability results that the older ones? You know the Chinese industries, they start copying things, some are junk, and others end up being sold by brands we all accept as sellers of quality products. Most of the time we don't even notice these products are made in China.

I know this whole eBay turbo thing gets beat around on here all of the time, but eventually these guys might start building some quality. . . It's not really that far fetched.

Anyway, I'll post up a link when I can find it!


Modified by Tjabo at 5:13 PM 3/24/2008

VTEC-DA

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Nothing worse that a 48 hour bonar. lol

Tjabo

Yeah, what is it, if you have a bonar for 3 days you have to go to the doctor or something? Heh heh heh. . .

Anyway, here are some links:

Here's a nice blingy one with (fake I'd assume) anti-surge ports:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

And here's one of the "economy" priced ones:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW





Modified by Tjabo at 5:43 PM 3/24/2008

sohczcturbo

In my opinion, the turbo's aren't worth it. Mine lasted 3 months at 8 psi before blowing a seal, and within days of that it destroyed the whole turbo. After the seals blew I "gimped" it around town from shop to shop in hope's of finding one that would rebuild it, most wouldn't even touch it, and one said he would but only if I'd pay for garret internals to go in it. Before I ever made it back the turbo blew lol. Just stick with the proven stuff. $250 is bit much to play guinea pig with for me, but then again, to every man his own.

Tjabo

Curious though, was yours one of the new ones that claim to be individually computer balanced?

If it wasn't, then it really doesn't add to the knowledge base of whether anything has changed or not.

Thanks anyway for the input though, even if it wasn't one of the new ones!

EDIT: Oh, here's the low-bucker I was looking for before:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW


Modified by Tjabo at 7:04 PM 3/24/2008

93CX

My first eBay turbo was $250 shipped and lasted 4500 miles at 10 pounds before the hotside oil seal went. Since my manifold and downpipe were set up for the eBay turbo, I just bought another for $190 shipped.. and oil is already shooting out of the compressor side. I used to think they were a great deal for people on a budget, but 250+190 = 440. In other words, I could have gotten a garrett 57 trim for an extra $100 or so more and it would (most likely) still be functioning perfectly. I will not be buying another eBay turbo when this one goes.. unless, of course their new balancing technique helps oil seals

HiProfile

When you consider a properly cared for Garrett will last for 40k, you really can't beat the price. You can get the OTS 57trim for around $500, and will last if you don't overspin it, over pressurize the chra, or toss piston & valve chunks or rocks through it. They are also rebuildable for about the price of the ebay turbo.

IMO I highly doubt they are balanced <U>all that well</U>, but the pictures do seem to show a bit of grinding done on the tips of the turbine and compressor wheels.

93CX

&lt;hijack&gt;

Anyone know how much hp these will actually make? I'm planning on maxing mine out on my built B16

&lt;/hijack&gt;

neek175

The secret to making these turbos last somewhat longer and perform well, is the use of a oil restictor. The seals blow easily without them.

97grnrs

i use the older xs 57 trim and drive it daily no problems ever . 15 psi daily.

JoePSI

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But the secret to make your setup last longer is to not use one at all.

neek175

Ummmm im using one with no probs. Spend your money and i will spend mine.

zex_cool

this is news to you ppl ??

all of the "ebay" turbos i've got from over a year ago have all been balanced.
i actually happen to have a 57trim thats taken apart in the garage right now what has both sides of the shaft shaved off and a reff. mark on the compressor side.

all of the turbos i got worked great and made good power numbers.
there t3 60 trim(the one with the internal gate and a v band DP) made 300whp @ 20psi on my vitara/tt SOHC build. &lt;&lt;stock everything else.
the 57trim made 250whp on a bone stock b16@7psi.

they dont have anything bigger so i moved up to a holset but for anyone looking to make sub 400whp i dont see a reason why not to run one.

RCautoworks

Ebay stuff rules

SovXietday

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 GSR-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so balanced junk is worth more than unbalanced junk?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where did I say they were good? I just said that they might be balanced.

JoePSI

Gotta love gambling.