boosted_soul_94

hey i needed some help about turbo and the motor being built..i went to go test drive a car today and wanted to purchase it..but something didn't feel right about it..the motor is fuilly built with je 9 to 1 compression and crower billet rods. and he was boosting 5lbs. the motor was a ls vtec turbo..and he was useing his STOCK LS ECU. so no vtec engagment.. but for some reason i didn't feel nothing at all it was like driving a normal car? and i was asking my friends and they said you should boost more casue it has such a low compression it dosn't respond that quickly? is that true? need some help!! thanks guys!

Importordomestic

if this is the case the car feels crappy cause there is no vtec

HamiltonRex

boost + built/hybrid motor on stock ecu = no no

crxnj

Wow,is your friend alittle slow..? Why would someone have a built lsvtec and turbo and have stock LS ecu..? So stupid..It's probably running so Lean..Im suprised it didn't blow up

And you're friends told you it should boost more because it has a lower compression? The turbo doesn't just say to itself " Okay, the motor has lower compression pistons so let me spin alittle more"..

Get some kind of fuel mangagement..If he's obd1 I suggest Uberdata chipped p28,Bigger fuel pump and bigger injectors,,And get it tuned ,,Then you'll feel some power..

boosted_soul_94

well my friend was running his aem ems system and was tunned...but after parting his car out he sold that and all he had left was the stock ecu..a bunch of my other friends told me it could be casue of the fuel management (he is not running one what so ever)..=/..the injectors are the blitz 720cc..i heard the turbo spool up real hard and the blow off valve go off..but it felt kinda i was driving a stock car...

AbitAvenger

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Get some kind of fuel mangagement..If he's obd1 I suggest Uberdata chipped p28,Bigger fuel pump and bigger injectors,,And get it tuned ,,Then you'll feel some power..

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blackeg

jeeez. get some management. do a compression check who knows how well it was running on a stock ecu.....i dunno if i would buy that..how much is he asking?

Everyones Hero

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by techna_sol_94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well my friend was running his aem ems system and was tunned...but after parting his car out he sold that and all he had left was the stock ecu..a bunch of my other friends told me it could be casue of the fuel management (he is not running one what so ever)..=/..the injectors are the blitz 720cc..i heard the turbo spool up real hard and the blow off valve go off..but it felt kinda i was driving a stock car... </TD></TR></TABLE>

That doesn't make sense.

Stock ECUs go apeshit when they see boost. Was there a CEL? If he's running 720cc injectors he's running pig rich because those are 3 times the size of the stock injectors.

Even if he's just running 5 pounds of boost you should still feel it. It won't be super-fast, but it should have some get up and go.

What year is this car and how much is the guy asking for it? If it's cheap it might not be a bad idea to get because you can fix all the little things that are wrong with it. If he wants a lot I'd pass it up and look for something with less problems.

AbitAvenger

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That doesn't make sense.

Stock ECUs go apeshit when they see boost. Was there a CEL? If he's running 720cc injectors he's running pig rich because those are 3 times the size of the stock injectors.

Even if he's just running 5 pounds of boost you should still feel it. It won't be super-fast, but it should have some get up and go.

What year is this car and how much is the guy asking for it? If it's cheap it might not be a bad idea to get because you can fix all the little things that are wrong with it. If he wants a lot I'd pass it up and look for something with less problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It could be running so damn rich that it doesnt seem much faster at all

Everyones Hero

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That's very true.

I don't know if I'd want a car that is setup like that. All of those problems should be fairly easy to fix, but you never know how much damage has already been done to the car. You figure he's running 720cc injectors with the stock duty cycle which is probably putting him below 9:1 afr in vac. I wouldn't be surprised if the oil was super-thin from having a lot of gas in it.

AbitAvenger

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That's very true.

I don't know if I'd want a car that is setup like that. All of those problems should be fairly easy to fix, but you never know how much damage has already been done to the car. You figure he's running 720cc injectors with the stock duty cycle which is probably putting him below 9:1 afr in vac. I wouldn't be surprised if the oil was super-thin from having a lot of gas in it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its probably richer then 9:1 if he actually has 720's on the stock ecu

boosted_soul_94

here is his complete setup he is asking 3500 for the compete motor with everything on it

JE 9to1 Racing Pistons .5 Oversized (JE File Fit Rings)
Crower Billet Rods
Ferrea 1mm Oversized Intake Valves
Ferrea .5mm Oversized Exhaust Valves
CTR Intake Cam
ITR Exhaust Cam
Ferrea Dual Stainless Steel Valve Springs
Ferrea TI Retainers
Ferrea Stainless Steel Valve Keepers
Skunk2 B Series Adjustable Cam Gears
COMETIC 4 Layer Headgasket
ITR Oil Pump
ITR Waterpump
ARP Head Bolts
ARP Rod Bolts
ARP Crank Bolts
Darton Sport Sleeves
Honda Main/Rod Bearings
Aluminum Block Guard


Transmission

LS tranny 5speed no grinds
Exedy Lightened Flywheel
Exedy Three-Puck Racing Clutch *less than 500 miles on it***


Motor Parts

B18A Block
B16A VTEC Head
LS Crank
ITR intake Manifold


Machine Work

Hone Block to fit Sleeves/Pistons
Knife Edge Crank
Machine Head for Valves
Valvetrain Assembly/3 Angle Valve Job
Port Match Intake Manifold
Port Match Exhaust Manifold
Assemble Rods/Pistons
Balance Pistons
Balance Rods
Balance Crank
Deck Block
Line Hone Block
Micro Polish Crank
Assemble Pistons/Rods/Crank in Block
Balance Bottom End of Motor
Balance Bottom End with Exedy Flywheel
Balance Bottom End with Exedy 3 Puck Racing Clutch
Tap Out Head for VTEC Conversion
Modify Block for VTEC Gasket


Engine Management

AEM UEGO Wide-Band O2 Sensor
Apexi AVC-R Boost Controller
AEM 3.5-BAR Map Sensor


Turbo System

Greddy TD05-18G
Greddy Collector (Manifold)
Greddy Type S Blow-Off Valve
2 1/8" Charge Pipe to Intercooler
Greddy Type 31 Intercooler
2 1/2" Charge Pipe to Throttle Body
Blitz 720cc Low Imp. Injectors w/ Resistor Box
AEM Fuel Rail
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
2 1/2" and 2 3/4" Transition Downpipe
2 3/4" Test Pipe Section
Autometer Oil Pressure Meter (Electric)
Autometer Boost Gauge
Apexi AVC-R Boost Controller
AEM 3.5-BAR Map Sensor

B6tPoweredMx3

Wow, so much money put into that motor and No engine management.
Kid your buying it from is a special case, Id say stay away.

Edit: You can swear in here but not kills? ehh whatever.

Everyones Hero

For that kind of setup 3500 is cheap.

I would almost buy it for that price and then get a P75 chipped with uberdata to run it correctly. But at the same time I don't know if I would want to get the car with it being in it's current running state.

boosted_soul_94

yea..it is pretty cheap for that nice setup..but i'll have my mechanic check it out ..do the basic compression test and a leakdown test and we'll see what goes on from there..

blackeg

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solid plan. if it checks out, its worth it, thats a decent motor setup