yellowturbo

Ok I want to get a camshaft for my setup. I cant make a decision between the two cams, I just did a 30 minutes searching session. There is a LOT of thread like mine but no one have the awnser....

ZEX 59300 : A lot of guy run it even if he is not specially designed for FI application. Seems to work great and a lot of people use it cuz many people use it loll !!!

Crower 63441ZT : I cant really find if someone here have this cam and how high he could makes power... I think that if he is specialy designed for FI he could help my turbo to see full boost sooner...

My engine is build from A to Z.... I have a SC50 .63ar who likes to rev ( I made my peak power at 7750 rpm with the stock cam ) so I need a cam who will push until at least 8000rpm. I would also improve my torque numbers...

So anyone could help me to choose the right cam for my car

getnasty

bump cause I wanna know same thing

ELSpool

Some D cams to help compare.. Durations all at 0.050"

STOCK Y8: 9.9 mm lift Dur: 208/191
STOCK Z6: 9.7 mm lift Dur: 208/192

Crower Stage 1: 10.2 mm lift Dur: 224/196
Crower Stage 2: 10.9 mm lift Dur: 230/204
Crower Stage 2(T): 11 mm lift Dur: 222/200
EF-1 S12: 11.4 mm lift
Zex 59300: 11.5 mm lift Dur: 220/216
JG 85VT35: 10.4 mm lift

yellowturbo

any duration specs ELSpool ?

yellowturbo

anybody ?

Marauder

My friend has the crower turbo cam on his Y8 with the edelbrock kit, converted to OBD1 and running 9psi and doesn't like it. Saw very little difference from the factory cam to the crower.

yellowturbo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friend has the crower turbo cam on his Y8 with the edelbrock kit, converted to OBD1 and running 9psi and doesn't like it. Saw very little difference from the factory cam to the crower.</TD></TR></TABLE>

really ? I dont know if we could compare his setup to mine... I mean I dont know if the car would react the same way at 9 psi than at 15 psi on a bigger turbo ?

yellowturbo

bump I need more info !

booscivic

I have the zex on my set up and powe drop dramatically after 6k

booscivic

anybody knows a cam for sohc turbo rev up to 8k to 8.5k?

Chiovnidca

Bump to see if anyone else is running the crower 63441zt cam now.

SOHC_MShue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by booscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the zex on my set up and powe drop dramatically after 6k</TD></TR></TABLE>
Have you messed with the cam timing? I have the zex 59300 in my boosted sohc and between that and the stock cam it was a night and day difference. With the stock cam the power dropped off early like you described, but with the zex it would just keep on pulling.

SOHC_MShue

bump it up

blundar

I'm going to be running the 59300 in my supercharged SOHC... Probably 12:1 compression too. See how it does.

Chiovnidca

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blundar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm going to be running the 59300 in my supercharged SOHC... Probably 12:1 compression too. See how it does.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hope your going to run some racing fuel.

093turbo16

iTrader: (2)

I think he can handle it.

I am also running the 59300 in my vitara setup. Just waiting a week to put the cam in. I will post up some new numbers with that cam with and some cam gear adjustments. So I can settle this Y8 OBD1, crap.

blundar

plan is to do whatever it takes to get it to run on pump...

JDM D15B block/crank
LS rods, slimmed
98 Civic GX PDN pistons
3 layer OEM gasket
*HEAVILY PORTED* Z6 head, 42.5cc chambers
Zex 59300 cam
Hondata IM
JRSC, CRX pulley so ~8-9psi at 8500 RPM
Kamikaze 4-1 header to start, custom piece eventually.

If I can't get it to run on pump, I'll run water injection.

093turbo16

iTrader: (2)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blundar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">plan is to do whatever it takes to get it to run on pump...

JDM D15B block/crank
LS rods, slimmed
98 Civic GX PDN pistons
3 layer OEM gasket
*HEAVILY PORTED* Z6 head, 42.5cc chambers
Zex 59300 cam
Hondata IM
JRSC, CRX pulley so ~8-9psi at 8500 RPM
Kamikaze 4-1 header to start, custom piece eventually.

If I can't get it to run on pump, I'll run water injection.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is what I was going to suggest. I did a car yesterday with it, man do motors liek timing when they have water injection.


But in your case, it would be a great anti-detonation method.

SOHC_MShue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blundar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">plan is to do whatever it takes to get it to run on pump...

JDM D15B block/crank
LS rods, slimmed
98 Civic GX PDN pistons
3 layer OEM gasket
*HEAVILY PORTED* Z6 head, 42.5cc chambers
Zex 59300 cam
Hondata IM
JRSC, CRX pulley so ~8-9psi at 8500 RPM
Kamikaze 4-1 header to start, custom piece eventually.

If I can't get it to run on pump, I'll run water injection.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds like a great setup man. I can't wait to see the results. Same with your new setup John. I'd like to see what kind of numbers you put down on the y8 setup and where you find the best cam settings to be. On the butt dyno mine liked 4.5* advanced with the zex 59300 cam and an adjustable z6 cam gear in my y8 head. I tried all kinds of different settings and this one had the best all around powerband(from what i could feel).

093turbo16

iTrader: (2)

We will find out very soon. I hopefully will have the cam in after my litte trip to VA. Then it will see the dyno once again.

SOHC_MShue

nice

94exguy

Im running a zex 59300. Like others said before the difference was night and day. Im not turbo'ed YET but hopefully this time next year(im 17 so money is tight). At the same time of the cam i installed a built ported and polished head(crower valve springs and skunk2 ti retainers), aem cam gear and a dc 4-1 header. So those also contributed to the night and day experience. The valve terrain is very noisey but sounds good. (i enjoy driving next to concrete barriers now ) Plus you cant beat the price of the zex. my .02 for what its worth

PS ill be hitting the dyno at the end of the summer after i get a new clutch(mine's slipping like a bitch )

94exguy

double post opps....

Simple SOHC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like a great setup man. I can't wait to see the results. Same with your new setup John. I'd like to see what kind of numbers you put down on the y8 setup and where you find the best cam settings to be. On the butt dyno mine liked 4.5* advanced with the zex 59300 cam and an adjustable z6 cam gear in my y8 head. I tried all kinds of different settings and this one had the best all around powerband(from what i could feel). </TD></TR></TABLE>

Is that an additional 4.5* advance on top of the 4-5* compensation for the Z6 cam in the Y8 head you were running? Sorry if this is a dumb question...I'd like to get an idea of where to set the cam at in a turbo app. I'll be having all Z6 components (Head, Cam, Cam Gear, Block), so I'm trying to get the correct info.

SOHC_MShue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H23 EG Hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is that an additional 4.5* advance on top of the 4-5* compensation for the Z6 cam in the Y8 head you were running? Sorry if this is a dumb question...I'd like to get an idea of where to set the cam at in a turbo app. I'll be having all Z6 components (Head, Cam, Cam Gear, Block), so I'm trying to get the correct info.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no that was just 4.5* advanced. For your setup i would start out at 0* and work from there. Take it to a dyno and see what setting works best.