My D16 Benson build
09-02-2004, 08:05 AM
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Re: (Tinker219)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tinker219 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hes flat-bedding to Toms anyway, itll just be nice to have a running car roll up on the rollers instead of B.Rubble style.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ha-Ha.
Good luck Craig. I better get an IM or an email with the results.
Ha-Ha.
Good luck Craig. I better get an IM or an email with the results.
09-02-2004, 08:09 AM
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Re: (ladysman)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ladysman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It is for sure the ROM, bad cable connecting to the box or an ECU that I can think of. Try reburning the chip.
When I use my software to burn the chip, it tells me if the chip can't be loaded again with a file. Then you know it is bad. What are you using? Are you starting it wilth the stock injectors? I made you a base map for the 880's not for the stock ones that I remember?</TD></TR></TABLE>
99% sure cable is good, never had any problems with it. Starting it on stock map and stock injectors. Thanks for the help fellas, keep the ideas comin
It is for sure the ROM, bad cable connecting to the box or an ECU that I can think of. Try reburning the chip.
When I use my software to burn the chip, it tells me if the chip can't be loaded again with a file. Then you know it is bad. What are you using? Are you starting it wilth the stock injectors? I made you a base map for the 880's not for the stock ones that I remember?</TD></TR></TABLE>
99% sure cable is good, never had any problems with it. Starting it on stock map and stock injectors. Thanks for the help fellas, keep the ideas comin
09-02-2004, 09:58 AM
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Re: (Drag_On)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Drag_On »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When's the tune happening?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wanna put about 50 miles on it with the stock injectors. Then I'll throw in the 1000cc's and tune. Hopefully it'll all happen in the next week or so, trying to make BOI Chicago.
I wanna put about 50 miles on it with the stock injectors. Then I'll throw in the 1000cc's and tune. Hopefully it'll all happen in the next week or so, trying to make BOI Chicago.
09-02-2004, 06:05 PM
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Re: (phiberoptik)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phiberoptik »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WHats the verdict? did it start after the reburn or what? I cant wait to see this thing get up and going... </TD></TR></TABLE>
We had the chip burned at version 2.5, that's why it wasn't working. Converted it to 3.0 and that seems to be taken care of.
Still doesn't start though,
acts like it is flooded. I'm wondering if putting a little oil in the cylinders might help the rings seal a little better. The engine has been sitting a while since it was put together.
We had the chip burned at version 2.5, that's why it wasn't working. Converted it to 3.0 and that seems to be taken care of.
Still doesn't start though,
acts like it is flooded. I'm wondering if putting a little oil in the cylinders might help the rings seal a little better. The engine has been sitting a while since it was put together.
09-02-2004, 06:18 PM
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Re: (Hella_JDM)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">starting it on stock injectors?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep
Thanks for the help tonight Chiovnidca, I really appreciate it. Oil is a thought maybe, help get the initial combustion going. It's strange fellas......spark, fuel, timing, everything seems to be there but the bitch won't light. Verdict for the evening is that it's flooded. We took the plugs out to let the cylinders dry.
Yep
Thanks for the help tonight Chiovnidca, I really appreciate it. Oil is a thought maybe, help get the initial combustion going. It's strange fellas......spark, fuel, timing, everything seems to be there but the bitch won't light. Verdict for the evening is that it's flooded. We took the plugs out to let the cylinders dry.
09-02-2004, 06:33 PM
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Re: (GITWIDIT)
what are your injectors set too in the map??????
whats your fuel pressure at?
take your plugs out are they soaking wet??? crank the car over with the plugs out , does fuel shoot out?
whats your fuel pressure at?
take your plugs out are they soaking wet??? crank the car over with the plugs out , does fuel shoot out?
09-02-2004, 07:14 PM
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Trying to start it on a bone stock map with stock injectors. Fuel pressure is @ 40psi. Plugs are damp, getting fuel....... Plugs in cylinders 1 & 3 are starting to show some color on the porcelin but are still wet. You can hear it when you crank that it's wanting to start and every few revs you can hear combustion out the exhaust. Sounds/looks like 1 & 3 are kinda hitting but nothing from 2 & 4 yet 
Ant ideas fellas???
Ant ideas fellas???
09-02-2004, 07:19 PM
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Re: (GITWIDIT)
double check your firing order . try flooring the car when you crank , and when it starts to fire let it go. going wot on startup cuts the injectors.
09-02-2004, 11:21 PM
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Re: (phiberoptik)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phiberoptik »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">speaking of... what kind of gap are your plugs set at?
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if i hear anything above .030 imma kill you!!
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if i hear anything above .030 imma kill you!!
09-03-2004, 03:15 AM
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Re: (Hella_JDM)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
if i hear anything above .030 imma kill you!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
He has good strong spark. Would a tighter gap help it start easier? Why?
if i hear anything above .030 imma kill you!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
He has good strong spark. Would a tighter gap help it start easier? Why?
09-03-2004, 06:19 AM
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Re: (Chiovnidca)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He has good strong spark. Would a tighter gap help it start easier? Why?</TD></TR></TABLE>
it might , i know i was blowing spark out with a gap of .030...if its above that on a turbo car it could blow it out , you never know.... im sure its somthing small
it might , i know i was blowing spark out with a gap of .030...if its above that on a turbo car it could blow it out , you never know.... im sure its somthing small
09-03-2004, 06:38 AM
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Re: (Chiovnidca)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
He has good strong spark. Would a tighter gap help it start easier? Why?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Put a fresh set of STOCK HEAT RANGE plugs in for the first 50 miles he is talking about driving it on the stock injectors. If the plugs are wet, they could be toast.
Like someone said, check the firing order. Should be 1-3-4-2
One other thing, you may need to add a tablespoon of oil to each cylinder when you pull the plugs. This will give the engine compression to aid in starting.
Good luck!!
He has good strong spark. Would a tighter gap help it start easier? Why?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Put a fresh set of STOCK HEAT RANGE plugs in for the first 50 miles he is talking about driving it on the stock injectors. If the plugs are wet, they could be toast.
Like someone said, check the firing order. Should be 1-3-4-2
One other thing, you may need to add a tablespoon of oil to each cylinder when you pull the plugs. This will give the engine compression to aid in starting.
Good luck!!
09-03-2004, 07:03 AM
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Firing order is correct. We'll put some oil in the cylinders and probably a good idea to take the 7's out and put in some 5's.
Thanks guys, keep the ideas rollin in!
Thanks guys, keep the ideas rollin in!
09-03-2004, 07:14 AM
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Re: (GITWIDIT)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GITWIDIT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Firing order is correct. We'll put some oil in the cylinders and probably a good idea to take the 7's out and put in some 5's.
Thanks guys, keep the ideas rollin in!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Call me if you get it going.
Thanks guys, keep the ideas rollin in!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Call me if you get it going.