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Old 05-02-2005, 03:09 PM
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Ok i got my basemap made on turboedit and i am wondering if my afr is ok for driving around. At idle i am running pretty rich with a high 12 to low 13 afr. Just driving it goes up to the 14's soemtimes 15.. in full boost, which for now is 7-8 psi i am in the high 11's to low 12's. is this all ok for now except for the richness at idle? Also when i shift i am gettting like 17 and higher for the time that i am off the throttle and it is saying lean on the wideband and with my open dp i am getting a lot of backfire. like really loud.. so i just wanted to know if this sounds ok for now til i can get a new chip and learn turboedit pretty good. thanks
Old 05-02-2005, 03:26 PM
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Bump!!!!!
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At idle after full warm up Im at 14.6ish going into WOT it bounces into 10.2 and holding solid 11s 11.4 11.6. @10psi
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Default Re: Is my afr safe? (crx88fast)

Sounds fine.

Is the car warm when you are getting 12:1 AFR at idle?

If so, lean it out a little until you get closer to 14.7:1.
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sounds fine other than idle. The lean spike when you shift is just from fuel cutoff when you let off the gas...that is normal.
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if u let off when u shift, lol
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You are fine. Have fun.
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thanks guys that takes a load off of my mind.. would it be safe to take to the track this friday and see what it runs before i up the boost some more and tune it in? Yes my car is warm when i get those idle afr's and its around 13:1 or just a bit higher. and with it being so rich at idle is the only bad effect that it will get crappier gas mileage? any other harmful effects?
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Default Re: Is my afr safe? (crx88fast)

Ring-wash... shoot for at least a 14.7:1 idle. When you shift or let off the gas to slow down you'll read lean (downshift or decel).
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Default Re: Is my afr safe? (crx88fast)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx88fast &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks guys that takes a load off of my mind.. would it be safe to take to the track this friday and see what it runs before i up the boost some more and tune it in? Yes my car is warm when i get those idle afr's and its around 13:1 or just a bit higher. and with it being so rich at idle is the only bad effect that it will get crappier gas mileage? any other harmful effects?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you barely use any fuel at idle so gas mileage won't be effected by idle.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ring-wash... shoot for at least a 14.7:1 idle. When you shift or let off the gas to slow down you'll read lean (downshift or decel).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Will ring was really be something to worry about or would it only be bad with an even richer idle?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx88fast &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Will ring was really be something to worry about or would it only be bad with an even richer idle? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You'd have to be way richer than you are at idle before you'd have to worry about ring wash.....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR981002 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You'd have to be way richer than you are at idle before you'd have to worry about ring wash.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea you should be fine.
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Default Re: Is my afr safe? (crx88fast)

thanks for the help guys
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