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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 07:06 AM
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Default Multiple problems, can't find a solution

Hey guys I know this has probably come up a million times but I can not find anything that matches my problems exactly. Please bare with me on this topic as I have been chasing this for quite sometime. I also ask that we stay on topic with this issue as I am truly fed up with this thing and ready to give up.


I have a 2001 civic-T with an AEM Fuel Ignition Controller. The turbo kit is that of the one from Turbo Specialties that they made for the 01-05 civics. The car was tuned by Mike in Mobile, AL on only 5.5 lbs of boost. There was an unknown vac leak on one of the injectors that I did not know about before the tune was done. I fixed that vac leak and have not been able to get the car re-tuned since. The boost now holds at 6 and even hits 7 sometimes depending on throttle demand.

First off The car has a surging idle ranging from about 1100-1500 (somewhere in that range) whether warm or cold. At these RPM's the Air/Fuel Ratio is about 10:1 according to my UEGO. There are no vac leaks!! Trust me I have completely ruled that out.

There are 3 codes that are being read by the computer:
P0505-Idle air control Malfunction
P0141-Oxygen O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction (Bank1, Sensor2)
P0135-Oxygen O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction (Bank1, Sensor1)

In boost the A:F ratio is right about 12, but only in boost. Acceleration, no boost, it runs on the leaner side of fuel:air (14 or 15 if my memory serves me correct). After throttle lift, the UEGO reads 18:1, or 3 dashes for those who are familiar with the system.

During cruise (foot on gas no acceleration) no matter the speed or rpm, the A:F ratio is about 15 with spikes of 18 and the feeling of a loss of fuel for a short second then back to normal. Sometimes the car will even "buck" with the spikes of 18:1 A:F ratios. If I Turn the ignition off and then directly back on, the car will "reset" and will drive normal again for a bit.

When I come to a stop sign or red light the car will sit at a 1500 idle until I drive off again. I can even just take my foot off the clutch and the high rpm is good enough to get the car moving.

I believe these are all the problems and I truly appreciate any help that is given on this matter. Understand that I have literally tried everything I can think of and I am at my wit's end on this.
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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The "bucking" seems a like poorly tuned map although could be other things. If your IACV is throwing a code and your idle is not normal- those 2 things are definitely connected more then likely being compounded from your 02 problem. Your 02 sensors are freaking out because they are not seeing the mixtures they want which can play a part in you A/Fs during cruise and idle. I cannot say how much and or if the AEM unit is really the issue but trouble shooting is a pain in the butt. In my experience persistence pays off with these cars. Don't give up. It is almost always something small and a easy to fix and makes a world of difference.
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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Blaze, So would a tune possibly fix my issue?
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 06:40 AM
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The answer is simple, take the car back to your tuner to have the issues resolved.
You need to resolve your iacv code to resolve your idle issues.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:07 AM
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mtber, I take it the IACV issue/idle issue is not effected by the tune?
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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No, they can be connected.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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I hope I am not sounding ignorant here. I just want to make sure that I get this right this time. I would like to have all the answers before I go looking for a tuner again.

How should I go about trouble shooting the o2 sensors? Is there a test procedure? i.e ohms, voltage from the ECU, etc...

I have read that if you have the ignition on, not running, you should get 12v from the ECU to the o2. This came from an unreliable source, youtube. (yes I know, I was desperate). I tried the test, and yet I could not get 12v on any of the wires which lead me to believe grounded wire. So with that said does anyone know which wires are supply and return for the o2? I would like to do an OHMS test.
Does anyone have a wiring diagram online they can point me too? (the auto zone manual sucks)
Should I do this before I take it to be tuned?

Does anyone know a test procedure for the IACV? (besides the one where you have to cover the hole with your finger)
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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Anyone?
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