GroundZer0 336

how much psi can i run to a stock d16a6? .....without blowing it up

Drew Peacock

10psi is the maximum safe limit or around 200whp. You don't want to give it that much boost everyday though. People have made more power but yeah depends if you want to risk it.

ion_four

Ha, you should read your own sig, champ

Many people have run 12psi, DAILY, and quite a few have gone over 1bar (some far over) for extended periods of time. It's all in the tuning and how well you keep up your car.

TurboJesse

Boost is relative to many things, turbo size, etc. You might be able to boost 12-13 with the greddy kit but only 8-9 with a t3/t4, Your engine is limited to how much power it can handle wiht stock internals, not how much boost it can handle. Anyways ive heard D-series internals are only good to 230-240whp.

turbochic

i know a few people that are running the fmax kit stock d16y8 internals and they dyno'd at 220hp, they have been daily driving it on that amt of hp for 2 1/2 yrs now, its all in the tuning and upkeep.
at the track they have bumped it up to i think 14 psi and they dyno'd 250 hp with 104 octane on stock internals.

ELSpool

Sig.

Now I run 12 psi daily. No problems yet.

Edit. One, stock clutch is starting to get mushy... Dual Friction is ready to go in.

turbod16y8

on my stock d16y8 with a 14b ...10 daily and sometimes 14-15 psi. racing...93 octane untuned.

M.A.R.C.

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Dual Friction is ready to go in.</TD></TR></TABLE>

please don't do it to yourself. I had one on my car and it lasted like 2 weeks before slipipng at the track

ELSpool

No ****?

I've been in a few of my friend turbo teggys and civic they are both over 300whp and have been running that clutch for 3 years now.

Drew Peacock

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ion_four &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ha, you should read your own sig, champ

Many people have run 12psi, DAILY, and quite a few have gone over 1bar (some far over) for extended periods of time. It's all in the tuning and how well you keep up your car. </TD></TR></TABLE> Well dude if you read my post you would of seen that I said you can make more power and people do. He is asking what is a safe maximum boost level. Anything past that level its starts getting a little risky. I wouldn't go on a road trip with 10psi plus in a stock sohc would you? If you think pushing 1 bar on stock sohc with even a moderately sized turbo isn't risky your a tard

1dumbscreenname

what form of tuning would people use for 200 whp. i already have an safc and didnt want to buy a hondata, will my tuning with the safc be good enough or will i have to buy something else???

SOHC_power

Who knows of someone blowing a nonbuilt D-series motor that was properly tuned ? Because there was just too much power, not detonation, etc. from not being tuned. The bottom end just couldn't hold the power. I haven't found anyone yet. That doesn't mean I am going to go turning the boost up or anything.....

T-sohctec

theoretically you woln't blow because of excessive power. you would just bend or throw a rod. Someone on here made close to 300WHP on stock internals with piggyback management, no standalone. The general rule of thumb for a D is that anything over 200WHP on stock internals is just asking for trouble even though it can be done.
The question is how big are your nuts and can your poctets back em up when the motor pops?


AND STOP ASKING ABOUT PSI!!! IT DON'T MEAN ****!!!

maddog20

Exactly what he said don't worry about psi worry about power!
Tunning is key
do your homework upgrade all components that tie in to making hp
look at ignition upgrades, better cooling, fuel related parts.

Drew Peacock

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by T-sohctec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theoretically you woln't blow because of excessive power. you would just bend or throw a rod. Someone on here made close to 300WHP on stock internals with piggyback management, no standalone. The general rule of thumb for a D is that anything over 200WHP on stock internals is just asking for trouble even though it can be done.
The question is how big are your nuts and can your poctets back em up when the motor pops?


AND STOP ASKING ABOUT PSI!!! IT DON'T MEAN ****!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>Thank you sir.

SOHC_power

TTT

turbod16y8

please dont get the dual friction......i ran it for 1 week and it slipped. right after breakingit in....

omahaturbocivic

Yup the day after I got my setup back together with a dual friction I was pricing act clutches. Mines was used about 5k on it not visibly worn at all so I figured I would try it since I got it for cheap It held better than stock which never came close to holding the power, but did not grab hard at all and seemed like it may be slipping a little up top. It may have been okay for all motor wanting something better but not an fi motor making about twice the hp.

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At least you dont need really big pockets to cover a blown sohc. Ive been thinking the single best mod I could proabably do is to put $500 in an envelope and put it in a safe place, or just buy another engine. Then just boost the crap out my engine till I find that hp limit. Maybe we could start a d16 challenge, see if anyone can beat boosteded9's record.

M.A.R.C.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omahaturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yup the day after I got my setup back together with a dual friction I was pricing act clutches. Mines was used about 5k on it not visibly worn at all so I figured I would try it since I got it for cheap It held better than stock which never came close to holding the power, but did not grab hard at all and seemed like it may be slipping a little up top. It may have been okay for all motor wanting something better but not an fi motor making about twice the hp.

At least you dont need really big pockets to cover a blown sohc. Ive been thinking the single best mod I could proabably do is to put $500 in an envelope and put it in a safe place, or just buy another engine. Then just boost the crap out my engine till I find that hp limit. Maybe we could start a d16 challenge, see if anyone can beat boosteded9's record.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hehehe i'm gonna try... but not on a stock block

T-sohctec

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hehehe i'm gonna try... but not on a stock block </TD></TR></TABLE>

same here, looking for 300WHP @ 14-18 PSI. but not on a stock block either. I really think that at a certain power level you would just start breaking rods on a regular basis.

BoostedED9

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lol, i think i will break my own record in the coming months again with stock internals, just a few different things to play with...

M.A.R.C.

i think this might help me win

BoostedED9

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looks nice man, but remember stock internals here.... wait till i get my hands on a built bottom end

M.A.R.C.

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looks nice man, but remember stock internals here.... wait till i get my hands on a built bottom end </TD></TR></TABLE>

i know i know... i had to cheat

SleepersOwn

Good LORD is this thread going in my notebook. lol FOR D SERIES POWA ! ! !

SleepersOwn &lt;~~~~ official b series swap hater.