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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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Car in sig loses 1 quart of coolant and no more in about 1 hour of driving...

here are the FACTS:

Ebay aluminum radiator
New cap
New thermostat
Coolant jug was filled on bench and held water over night with no leaks
No water in oil
No oil in water
No combustion in cooling system (chemical block test)
Coolant jug is empty all the time after the system loses the quart
NO external coolant leaks of any kind
No coolant burning in exhaust
Car does not overheat
Compression test = fine
Leakdown test= fine

Just to clarify, if I fill the system to the proper amount, and check it again after an hour of run time or 3000 miles the radiator will be exactly a quart low, and with empty coolant jug. It loses a quart and only a quart, no more, and no less, and is accurate pretty much to the drop! I am completely stumped, I have no effing clue what to do next. Any ideas? Thanks in advance!
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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you sure it isn't a leak? have you pressurized the system to check? i had a small tear in the loop hose on the IM, and it would only leak when the engine was running and the motor moved.

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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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How is the rubber line running to the coolant jug?
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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My brother just fixed his "non-existant leak" - he found the leak after pressure testing the coolant system. He found a small coolant hose occationally dripping coolant onto the header's a-pipe - it was not visible unless you were under the car, and burned off before it could normally leave any evidence.

If you pressure test it and it looses a single PSI in a few minutes, there's a leak. If it's not a hose, it's rad's lip where the cap rubber seals. If that's warped enough, it will seem out into your overflow, push the extra out of it, and suck it back up after it cools.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kyden
you sure it isn't a leak? have you pressurized the system to check? i had a small tear in the loop hose on the IM, and it would only leak when the engine was running and the motor moved.
Yes, pressure tested, didn't lose a single psi over the 20 mins I had it pressurized...

Originally Posted by B6tPoweredMx3
How is the rubber line running to the coolant jug?
On its second brand new one LOL

Originally Posted by HiProfile
If it's not a hose, it's rad's lip where the cap rubber seals. If that's warped enough, it will seem out into your overflow, push the extra out of it, and suck it back up after it cools.
I like this, any ideas on testing and repair?
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 06:00 AM
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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zip tie the jug coolant lines
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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headgasket
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Glove
headgasket
which results of my testing indicate that?
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by oneludesol
which results of my testing indicate that?
Headlift while under boost. New head gasket and arp head studs would prob fix that.

But I ain't there to diagnos myself.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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leaky heatercore?
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by keving85
Headlift while under boost. New head gasket and arp head studs would prob fix that.

But I ain't there to diagnos myself.
motor is fully fully fully built, already has arp everything... also, it will lose that quart of coolant without ever going into boost... Even if head-lift was a possibility, that wouldn't explain why it loses exactly a quart and stops, it would eat it until there was nothing left...
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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Maybe try putting some UV dye into the coolant and using a blacklight to figure out where it's going?
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by full Circling
Maybe try putting some UV dye into the coolant and using a blacklight to figure out where it's going?
thats my next step, just haven't gotten around to it yet...
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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ARP suggests re-torquing your head bolts after 1000 miles... DO IT...
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 05:40 AM
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Did you figure this out yet?
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