Mid compression Gsr turbo build
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Mid compression Gsr turbo build
I'm A few weeks to getting my turbo up and running in my car.
Im "iffy" about what I chose. I've done countless research and still cant find anything helpful to my setup. I know high compression and turbo don't go, unless tuned properly. I wanted to know what you guys think about this set up and what's the possibilities of this build.
Here's the list of parts already on the car.
block: b18c1
-JE/srp pistons 11:3.1 compression ratio(81.5mm)
-eagle H-beam rods with arp rod bolts
-crank was balanced/polished
-gsr oil pan
-all new bearings and gaskets
-gsr oil pump
-greddy timing belt*
-new water pump
-ARP head bolts*
-New oem head gasket*
-excedy oem replacement clutch
-resurfaced/balanced gsr flywheel
-2000 gsr crank pulley
-new alt, Ac, ps belts
head: p72 gsr*
-skunk2 pro 1 camshafts
-skunk2 cam gears
-portflow titanium dual valve springs n retainers*
-head was hot tanked and pressure tested for leaks*
-skunk2 intake manifold
-skunk2 vtec solenoid cover*
-obd2 gsr throttle body
-ngk spark plugs and wires*
-yowai ss carbon fiber intake*
-Hytech rep headers
-RC 550 injectors
Tuned on hondata s100
I will be changing/adding
-ID1000 injectors
-spec 3 clutch
-walbro 255 fuel pump
-Hondata s300
-aem tru boost gauge/controller
And the kit I will be using is the GO-AUTOWORKS Street X kit.
Please remember I've done research, just "iffy" and want to get some input on this set up. I spoke to Greg and my tuner. Greg recommended this kit and my tuner said my list looks good for about 8-10psi with 300-350whp..
Please keep the negative comments on the low...
Im "iffy" about what I chose. I've done countless research and still cant find anything helpful to my setup. I know high compression and turbo don't go, unless tuned properly. I wanted to know what you guys think about this set up and what's the possibilities of this build.
Here's the list of parts already on the car.
block: b18c1
-JE/srp pistons 11:3.1 compression ratio(81.5mm)
-eagle H-beam rods with arp rod bolts
-crank was balanced/polished
-gsr oil pan
-all new bearings and gaskets
-gsr oil pump
-greddy timing belt*
-new water pump
-ARP head bolts*
-New oem head gasket*
-excedy oem replacement clutch
-resurfaced/balanced gsr flywheel
-2000 gsr crank pulley
-new alt, Ac, ps belts
head: p72 gsr*
-skunk2 pro 1 camshafts
-skunk2 cam gears
-portflow titanium dual valve springs n retainers*
-head was hot tanked and pressure tested for leaks*
-skunk2 intake manifold
-skunk2 vtec solenoid cover*
-obd2 gsr throttle body
-ngk spark plugs and wires*
-yowai ss carbon fiber intake*
-Hytech rep headers
-RC 550 injectors
Tuned on hondata s100
I will be changing/adding
-ID1000 injectors
-spec 3 clutch
-walbro 255 fuel pump
-Hondata s300
-aem tru boost gauge/controller
And the kit I will be using is the GO-AUTOWORKS Street X kit.
Please remember I've done research, just "iffy" and want to get some input on this set up. I spoke to Greg and my tuner. Greg recommended this kit and my tuner said my list looks good for about 8-10psi with 300-350whp..
Please keep the negative comments on the low...
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Re: Mid compression Gsr turbo build
what turbo are you going to use? for that hp the garrett 50 trim and precision 5431e cea come to mind as being the popular 300whp turbos
the only drawback i see is the head, why use cams that will beat the **** out of your VT for 350whp? use itr cams, have a much longer VT life and still make 300-350whp.
if you're running this on pump the compression will make the engine snappy but limits boost. had the same talk with my tuner about my jdm itr. we're starting at .5 bar and only if need be trying the .6bar spring
the only drawback i see is the head, why use cams that will beat the **** out of your VT for 350whp? use itr cams, have a much longer VT life and still make 300-350whp.
if you're running this on pump the compression will make the engine snappy but limits boost. had the same talk with my tuner about my jdm itr. we're starting at .5 bar and only if need be trying the .6bar spring
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Re: Mid compression Gsr turbo build
what turbo are you going to use? for that hp the garrett 50 trim and precision 5431e cea come to mind as being the popular 300whp turbos
the only drawback i see is the head, why use cams that will beat the **** out of your VT for 350whp? use itr cams, have a much longer VT life and still make 300-350whp.
if you're running this on pump the compression will make the engine snappy but limits boost. had the same talk with my tuner about my jdm itr. we're starting at .5 bar and only if need be trying the .6bar spring
the only drawback i see is the head, why use cams that will beat the **** out of your VT for 350whp? use itr cams, have a much longer VT life and still make 300-350whp.
if you're running this on pump the compression will make the engine snappy but limits boost. had the same talk with my tuner about my jdm itr. we're starting at .5 bar and only if need be trying the .6bar spring
I'll be using the bullseye power S200 extended tip turbo. Well I got the cams installed 5 months ago or so thinking I'd stay n/a... But "according to skunk2, these are pretty fine for turbo applications... What do you mean by "snappy"? Because its gonna be on pump 92.... It is a daily driven vehicle btw....
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I'll be using the bullseye power S200 extended tip turbo. Well I got the cams installed 5 months ago or so thinking I'd stay n/a... But "according to skunk2, these are pretty fine for turbo applications... What do you mean by "snappy"? Because its gonna be on pump 92.... It is a daily driven vehicle btw....
For peace of mind have you considered a water/meth kit to help raise that octane a bit to combat the higher comp ratio on 92 pump gas? AEM makes a really nice kit & might be something you should look into for peace of mind.
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Re: Mid compression Gsr turbo build
i wouldnt consider 11.3:1 being mid compression. Thats pretty high, although will be fine like u stated with a good tune. However those cams are too big for youre turbo. They do work well with turbo, but thats with large turbo's 61lbs/min of flow or greater. Im not sure what the flow is of that turbo but i would imagine it would be shy of 60lbs. Also like stated above it put a ton of stress on the drivetrain
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I'll check those while tuning thanks!
I'll look into the meth injection kit.
I've seen/read couple people running the pro1. I've even read up that it's all not that bad.... But is it really?
Should I go with a smaller turbo?
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I'm With Kyden. You will have a much better powerband with the ITR cams, and much less Stress on Valvetrain.
Also like i stated before i dont think that turbo flows enough for use with the Pro 1's. Again i dont know what the flow rating is of that turbo but i dont think its over 60lbs/min
Also like i stated before i dont think that turbo flows enough for use with the Pro 1's. Again i dont know what the flow rating is of that turbo but i dont think its over 60lbs/min
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sweet cant wait to see your dyno number.
I almost have the same setup 81.5 12:5:1 ratio with 89mm stroke
Skunk2 valve train with pro2 cams.
I almost have the same setup 81.5 12:5:1 ratio with 89mm stroke
Skunk2 valve train with pro2 cams.
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Whats your full set up if you done mind me asking?
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Yeah bro.... Well I talked with a well known tuner on the island. He said it sounds a like a great build since the turbo is only a .55ar.. What you guys think?
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You and this damned 5431 "CEA".. You're trying to sell the hype like its ***** or something. Next think you're wearing a pimp hat with a big feather in it on a street corner... j/k. Its not popular compared to the 5557 and 5857, and you know that..
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Probably an S256 or S259 (about 58lbs/min-60lbs/min). Depending on which Housing you picked up, its more than likely a 74mm, which somewhat works, but would be great if a little smaller on the back. Go back down to the ITR or GS-R cams. The Pro1s don't work too well with those, even at 11.0:1 compression.
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Probably an S256 or S259 (about 58lbs/min-60lbs/min). Depending on which Housing you picked up, its more than likely a 74mm, which somewhat works, but would be great if a little smaller on the back. Go back down to the ITR or GS-R cams. The Pro1s don't work too well with those, even at 11.0:1 compression.
But anyways..
Yes it's the S256 but not sure if it's the 74 or 69.5.... I may go with the itr cams.
Just curios, but why won't pro1 cams go well??
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Re: Mid compression Gsr turbo build
I'm With Kyden. You will have a much better powerband with the ITR cams, and much less Stress on Valvetrain.
Also like i stated before i dont think that turbo flows enough for use with the Pro 1's. Again i dont know what the flow rating is of that turbo but i dont think its over 60lbs/min
Also like i stated before i dont think that turbo flows enough for use with the Pro 1's. Again i dont know what the flow rating is of that turbo but i dont think its over 60lbs/min
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