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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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manual boost controler or electronic boost controler? i was planning on getting the greddy profec b spec 2 but the price is way up there, as compare to a manual one. is the greddy one as relaible in terms of performance? (boost lag, leak or creep) worth it? i hear hallman mbc are pretty good so that might be my second choice.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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i've had much better luck with my greddy profec spec II than i ever had with a turboxs mbc.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Pressing a buttom for high boost sure beat the hell out of turning the mbc
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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I like MBC's due to the simplicity and the fact there is less that can go wrong. I've been using my Turbo XS Dual-Stage HP for almost a year now with nothing but great things to say.

Low and high boost settings, adjusted by the flip of a switch from inside the car.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a1320addict &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I like MBC's due to the simplicity and the fact there is less that can go wrong. I've been using my Turbo XS Dual-Stage HP for almost a year now with nothing but great things to say.

Low and high boost settings, adjusted by the flip of a switch from inside the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Isnt the dual stage manual like 225 or something right? prices are pretty close to a electronic one
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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Depends who you get it from. My sole reason for using it is Neptune can take advantage of it
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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You haven't listed what's important.

Yes, the EBC is more expensive, but offers this:

1.) Better spooling (couple hundred rpm)
2.) Easy boost changing
3.) High/low boost switch (usually)
4.) Electronic read out of the boost (no boost gauge needed)

Make up your own mind if it's worth it
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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If you are planning to make 400-600 hp i would reccomend the manual boost controller...its more steady in my experience...
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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You can buy my profec B. High/low boost setting. This thing worked like a charm.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1694933

But back on topic, I do indeed prefer electronic
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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turboxs duel stage MBC is the ****
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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TURBOSMART MBC!

OR jOE P. MBCS!
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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aem boost control thats the ****.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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i like electronic. i bought a greddy profec b 2 and waitin on install.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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where can i get the aem boost controller from??
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adseguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You haven't listed what's important.

Yes, the EBC is more expensive, but offers this:

1.) Better spooling (couple hundred rpm)
2.) Easy boost changing
3.) High/low boost switch (usually)
4.) Electronic read out of the boost (no boost gauge needed)

Make up your own mind if it's worth it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed.. sole reason why i picked up a profec B-II for my turbo install.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a1320addict &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I like MBC's due to the simplicity and the fact there is less that can go wrong. I've been using my Turbo XS Dual-Stage HP for almost a year now with nothing but great things to say.

Low and high boost settings, adjusted by the flip of a switch from inside the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>


same here.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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Don't EBCs do a better job of maintaining the same boost level across various air temps?
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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youll change your mind if you try

http://www.amsboostcontrol.com
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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the aem boost control is built in to the ems and you just use any control valve you want.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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ebc also uses a solenoid which can give you a few extra psi of boost over your wastegate.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeSLO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ebc also uses a solenoid which can give you a few extra psi of boost over your wastegate. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Seems like you know what you're talking about
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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There's a few things being left out here, IMO.
Manual Boost Controllers have the advantage of being simplistic yes but I have yet to hear of one that doesn't cause some sort of boost spike which is no good. Not to mention that if you want to change boost levels you have to turn a **** and guess what your boosting at unless you have a gauge in view. Even with the dual/quad stage mbc's you still have to get out and adjust anytime you want to change boost levels of the two settings, it's still a pain.

Where as, with an EBC you get the benefits mentioned above:
1.) Better spooling (couple hundred rpm)
2.) Easy boost changing
3.) High/low boost switch (usually)
4.) Electronic read out of the boost (no boost gauge needed)
5.) Overboost/Spike Protection which is worth the extra cost for me

This is what I have, it's simple, affordable and very functional. Not to mention it fits in a typical gauge bezel.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1709740
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuarterMileMaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
5.) Overboost/Spike Protection which is worth the extra cost for me

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Very true.....that feature has possibly saved my motor a few times due to boost creep
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuarterMileMaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have yet to hear of one that doesn't cause some sort of boost spike which is no good.
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My $40 joe p. mbc doesn't cause any boost spike. Holds steady at 10psi all the way.

I'm not 100% certain, but didn't that boost gauge/controller just come out a week or two ago? I'd give it a little time to see if any problems arise.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adseguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very true.....that feature has possibly saved my motor a few times due to boost creep</TD></TR></TABLE>
boost cut help me set my high boost
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