<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostfed.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't feel like an idiot man, the Manley's will not fail you and I would still have more faith in them </TD></TR></TABLE>

eh i know........i used the eagle rods in my last 2 builds with no issues.....great rod for the price......i guess i should have just kept using the eagle rods but i got the turbo tuff rods for a decent price so why not.

after close inspection the manely rods are deffinatly machined/made better compared to eagle. but both are great rods.

 

eagle rods myself and friends never had a problem with them went in 4 different fully built motors that i know of, and not one problem from eagle rods thats what the expletive i'm talking about

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Importrev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As long as you run the L19 bolts on them I think something else will fail before the rods do.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are these the "custom age bolt" rods you're talking about?? If so these are $500 rods.

 

Where could I pick up Eagle Rods for the best price ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KB24 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where could I pick up Eagle Rods for the best price ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no limit motorsports

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KB24 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where could I pick up Eagle Rods for the best price ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Camp1320.com they are in LA area

you can go over and pick them up Tom always hooks it up

 

i always laugh when I think back to my engine last year which had the 5/16 bolts and turned them to 9500rpms and over 500whp. those were eagle rods from 3+ years ago too

 

i hat to thread jack, but does anyone have a pic of which eagle rods are which?

These are the only pics i have of mine, wondering which ones they are now...






Modified by adictionbass at 6:48 PM 12/28/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adictionbass &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i hat to thread jack, but does anyone have a pic of which rods are which?

These are the only pics i have of mine, wondering which ones they are now...



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those look like eagle rods......but it would be hard to just guess without looking at the markings/letterings on the rods.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

those look like eagle rods......but it would be hard to just guess without looking at the markings/letterings on the rods.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think he meant are the 5/16 or 3/8 rod bolts

 

The all motor folks are having completely different results as far as big power + high RPM. You often hear Eagle rods punching through their blocks with a new topic coming up like every two month

Boost and NA is different... With boost, the same rods can tolerate a much higher RPM and torque output due to the different type of forces (mainly from high overlap on NA setups) exerted onto the rods. You can always check out Corky Bell's turbocharging book for the article.

Technically speaking, H-beam rods like the Eagles aren't the perfect design for boosted power; the I-beam like the Turbo Tuff rods however, are probably going to be indestructible IMO.

I am using Eagle 5/16th rods myself which I had purchased when I was all motor... From an old discussion, the difference between the 3/8 and the 5/16 is negligable because the weakness of the rod is not at the bolt but at the cap. Simply putting a bigger bolt didn't strengthen the weakest point which was responsible for rods punching through the block. That's why even with 3/8 rods, the NA guys were still having the same problems with them. It was more of a marketing approach, but personally, I never had problems with the Eagles 5/16th especially at a nice conservative power level (400 WHP) for over 2 years.

 

ive been running my eagles with the 5/16 bolts for 3+years and 60k miles. Im rebuilding right now and theyre goin right back in.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
those look like eagle rods......but it would be hard to just guess without looking at the markings/letterings on the rods.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i know their are eagles, just not sure which ones...

 

ive used them in 3 builds and never had a single issue with the actual rods.

515hp, 630hp, and 690hp

Might go with manleys this time but i havvnt made a firm decision and this thread makes me wanna just stay with eagles haha.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOOLINmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive used them in 3 builds and never had a single issue with the actual rods.

515hp, 630hp, and 690hp

Might go with manleys this time but i havvnt made a firm decision and this thread makes me wanna just stay with eagles haha.

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were these with the 5/16 bolts?

 

On the subject of rods has anybody had any problems with the scat h beam rods with the 3/8 rod bolts. What kind of power have people put down with these.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony the Tiger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The all motor folks are having completely different results as far as big power + high RPM. You often hear Eagle rods punching through their blocks with a new topic coming up like every two month

Boost and NA is different... With boost, the same rods can tolerate a much higher RPM and torque output due to the different type of forces (mainly from high overlap on NA setups) exerted onto the rods. You can always check out Corky Bell's turbocharging book for the article.

Technically speaking, H-beam rods like the Eagles aren't the perfect design for boosted power; the I-beam like the Turbo Tuff rods however, are probably going to be indestructible IMO.

I am using Eagle 5/16th rods myself which I had purchased when I was all motor... From an old discussion, the difference between the 3/8 and the 5/16 is negligable because the weakness of the rod is not at the bolt but at the cap. Simply putting a bigger bolt didn't strengthen the weakest point which was responsible for rods punching through the block. That's why even with 3/8 rods, the NA guys were still having the same problems with them. It was more of a marketing approach, but personally, I never had problems with the Eagles 5/16th especially at a nice conservative power level (400 WHP) for over 2 years.

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I learned something from this , even though I still might purchase H beam rods even though I'm going turbo because of the price.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostfed.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you meant Brian Fisher </TD></TR></TABLE>oops, fixed, thx terry


and those rods in the pix above look like 5/16 bolts

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LD9Stunner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">were these with the 5/16 bolts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

ive never used those, only the 3/8 versions. The ONLY 5/16 bolt ill use is the custom age 625+ bolts.

 

How many of these high hp (400+) set-ups on Eagles were balanced during the assembly? I know it may be apples to oranges but..
A friend of mine with a built STi motor (Eagle rods, CP pistons,JDM Version 7 STi heads, ARP studs, etc...) developed severe rod knock at moderate (15psi) boost levels on an AVO450 (~330awhp) on the dyno. The culprit was believed to be his not having the rotating assembly balanced. Moreover it was decided that had he gone with say Pauter rods the balancing wouldn't have been necessary.
I fully believe in balancing a built motor, but was just wondering how many of you just slapped them in and have had such great success?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SH4DY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How many of these high hp (400+) set-ups on Eagles were balanced during the assembly? I know it may be apples to oranges but..
A friend of mine with a built STi motor (Eagle rods, CP pistons,JDM Version 7 STi heads, ARP studs, etc...) developed severe rod knock at moderate (15psi) boost levels on an AVO450 (~330awhp) on the dyno. The culprit was believed to be his not having the rotating assembly balanced. Moreover it was decided that had he gone with say Pauter rods the balancing wouldn't have been necessary.
I fully believe in balancing a built motor, but was just wondering how many of you just slapped them in and have had such great success? </TD></TR></TABLE>

ive never had any of my builds balanced.

 

I never balanced mine either..

5/16 eagles.

400-450whp over 2 yrs now.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SH4DY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How many of these high hp (400+) set-ups on Eagles were balanced during the assembly? I know it may be apples to oranges but..
A friend of mine with a built STi motor (Eagle rods, CP pistons,JDM Version 7 STi heads, ARP studs, etc...) developed severe rod knock at moderate (15psi) boost levels on an AVO450 (~330awhp) on the dyno. The culprit was believed to be his not having the rotating assembly balanced. Moreover it was decided that had he gone with say Pauter rods the balancing wouldn't have been necessary.
I fully believe in balancing a built motor, but was just wondering how many of you just slapped them in and have had such great success? </TD></TR></TABLE>

On my old old old B16A build when I had everything balance, everything was within 1/2 gram except for just one Eagle Rod that needed just the smallest bit of material taken off to balance, it was very minimal.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SH4DY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How many of these high hp (400+) set-ups on Eagles were balanced during the assembly? I know it may be apples to oranges but..
A friend of mine with a built STi motor (Eagle rods, CP pistons,JDM Version 7 STi heads, ARP studs, etc...) developed severe rod knock at moderate (15psi) boost levels on an AVO450 (~330awhp) on the dyno. The culprit was believed to be his not having the rotating assembly balanced. Moreover it was decided that had he gone with say Pauter rods the balancing wouldn't have been necessary.
I fully believe in balancing a built motor, but was just wondering how many of you just slapped them in and have had such great success? </TD></TR></TABLE>

How did they magically decide that the culprit was an unbalanced rotating assembly? The only time you should run into issues with that would be if you're turning massive RPM's, chances are it was assembly error that caused rod knock at 330 AWHP.

 

i balanced my pauters and found one of them to be off almost 6 grams. balancing everything is very important. even one of my cp pistons was out a bunch. if that piston got coupled with the rod that was out so much it would not be good. always check the weights and correct them.