MAX. HP. Level for a T3/T04E ???

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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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Default MAX. HP. Level for a T3/T04E ???

Does anyone know the maximum horsepower output I could get from my T3/T04E turbo. I know there are a lot of variables, but I just wanted to find out what the hp limits were of this turbo. If i remember correctly it has an AR of .63/.50. (garett)

I am running a b18c1 (fully built block/valvetrain) spark racing equal tube length manifold, hks wastegate, victorX manifold, 720cc greddy inj., and AEM EMS. (if that helps at all?) I am trying to hit 500hp (at the crank) is this possible with my setup? or do I need to shop around for a new turbo? If so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...(T04X, T-61, etc.??) Thanks!
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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it will be a little small for 500. From what i have heard those are good to about 400-450 whp or so. A T3/60-1 would do it

Just my $.02...I may be wrong, but thats what i have seem numerous times

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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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I would honestly like to see if a Spark manifold could hold that much power.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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I would honestly like to see if a Spark manifold could hold that much power.

Is this not a good manifold?? From what I can see, it looks like a piece of art? Beautiful welds on the outside (robotic?) look so perfect. and the inside of the manifold is grinded down and polished, full stainless steel...maybe too pretty? hehe are these prone to cracking? I was thinking of fabricating a bracket to support the turbo and maifold off the block some where...
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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just let me know how long it takes cylinders 1 and 4 to crack and the wastegate to break off... with that hks wastegate i'll give u 1-2 weeks.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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From what I have read from members it's prone to cracking and the wastegate breaks off. Be ready to come home without a wastegate Sell the manifold. There are so many other manifolds out there that are good.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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I just got done looking at your project. That's some work you got there. Looks good so far. Good luck!
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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Precision SC54 used a t3/t04e housing and it's good for 620hp within it's efficiency range.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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t3/t4oe 60 trim with a .82a/r will support over 500whp. 60-1's are poop for lower psi levels.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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yeah t3/t04e 60 trim .82a/r. is good up to 500-550whp, at what boost level do you think you would see maximum hp on this turbo boosted hybrid ? around 22-26psi ?
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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Depending on the cfm of your engine, I would imagine around 24~25psi. I have read before that its very hard to max out the to4e wheel.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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so what kind of HP you think I could pump out at that psi level on my h22...I have 10:1 pistons w/ inline pro headgasket. AEM EMS, revhard log manifold. 3" exhaust, no cat, 2.5" flared to 3" downpipe...etc..
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Going full tilt on the turbo at 24~25psi, you'll be making at least 500whp assuming your head is built and you got rid of the dual stage intake manifold of the h22.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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ahh see i have the stock h22 manifold...
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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That is going to be a major restriction, very similar to the gsr manifold. If you get a custom one made, since there isnt anything on the market, then you'll make ALOT more power. With your engine, that is going to be the bottle neck.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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now I believe Golden Eagle makes one. I wonder if it would fit with no modification.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Probably not. Most of those sheet metal intake manifolds are a headache to install everything and make them fit like OEM. For the trouble that you have to go through, you might as well get a custom one. The GE manifolds run like 600.00 for a racer discount price.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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someone claimed to me that they did fit with no modification. I know the Venom one is a PITA to get to fit. Where could I get a custom one ?
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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Skunk2 finally has one out for the H22
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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I would talk to ffgeoff, I know that he knows people that can make something for you. I remember a post a few months back at SEMA, and someone made a badass sheet metal one that looked pretty incredible.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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I'd go with the skunk2 one then. I have always had good success with the b-series ones. If you want more flow, then hog out the ports of the manifold even more for better flow.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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Skunk 2 doesnt look as large as the GE one...That one at sema probably costs 2000 bucks..
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:36 PM
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Size doesnt always mean everything in terms of flow capacity. Unless your redline is going to be 9,000rpm+ then a huge plenum isnt always the best. With a stock redline, the skunk2 would produce better results than the victorx on a b-series.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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yeah but then again, I dont know if im going to be at the stock redline either...
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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A T3/T4E 60 trim can flow almost enough for 600hp.
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