NOSED_CRX_VTEC

Can anybody tell me what the max you can bore out the stock sleeves on a B16a1 block

Garrett

85 mm

Silverhatch

so if i brought a b16 and sleeved it and bored it to 84mm I would have a 2 liter b16 ?

rioninja

no, you would have a slight bit under a 1.8l.

The_Head

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It would be 1707 cc's

TeStUdO

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stock sleeves and FI I definitely would only go 81.5

NOSED_CRX_VTEC

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stock sleeves and FI I definitely would only go 81.5</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would be using a block guard with this set up.
Would that help things??

Boostfed

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It would be 1707 cc's </TD></TR></TABLE>
No actually it would be 1715.93ccs so 1.71l to 1.72l. The stroke for the B16A is 77.4mm not 77mm. To make a B16A a 2.0 would need an 86mm bore and then it would be 1798ccs but for NA not FI

Boostfed

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I would be using a block guard with this set up.
Would that help things??</TD></TR></TABLE>
No. he thinness of the walls will still be the same, I would say 81.5mm max for stock sleeves unless someone else chimes in with actual experience

havalilsi

if you are using stock sleeves for forced induction, then what are you going to gain by boring the block that small amount. if you bore it to 84 mm you're looking at 1.7L. AT 84mm you would need to have sleeves. if i'm not mistaken to get 2L you have to bore it to 84mm and put in a crank from a ls or a gsr. then you run into deck height issues

kevinoneill

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Wow i was feeling all smart and stuff seeing i knew the answer. But i'm too late to shine. Damn.

Boostfed

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by havalilsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you are using stock sleeves for forced induction, then what are you going to gain by boring the block that small amount. if you bore it to 84 mm you're looking at 1.7L. AT 84mm you would need to have sleeves. if i'm not mistaken to get 2L you have to bore it to 84mm and put in a crank from a ls or a gsr. then you run into deck height issues</TD></TR></TABLE>

For Forced Induction yes you want to go MAX of 85mm which is like 1.76liter to get 2.0 you wold need to stroke it but the rods would need to be shorter this would put the Rod to stroke ratio at 1.48:1 which is awful and have a lot of side load, the torque would be great but the redline would not be too high. HCI mag just did a stroker kit with an 87.2mm strok same as a GSR and shoter rods, made 203whp and 156ft-lb torque. But all motr you can bore to 86mm and get 1.96 or so!

NOSED_CRX_VTEC

All I really need to know is a piston that fits a 84mm bore good or bad for FI.
The pistons are Forged lower comperssion type.
Would this setup still be reliable as a daily driver or will it blow a sleave.
And what would be the max boost that could be run on this block?
It will also have forged rods, forged pistons, 1mm head gasket.

ekb18c

If you are running stock sleeves, DO NOT go 84mm because it wont last you very long

However, if you really want to go 84mm then you will need to RESLEEVE your block with either GE, AEBS, Darton, Benson sleeves.

havalilsi

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOSED_CRX_VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All I really need to know is a piston that fits a 84mm bore good or bad for FI.
if you have iron sleeves no. i've seen it on a few rides here in florida making over 300 ho easy.
The pistons are Forged lower comperssion type.
Would this setup still be reliable as a daily driver or will it blow a sleave.
again as long as you are using iron sleeves. stock honda sleeves wont cut it. with stock sleeves over 10 psi you're looking at flexing problems can you imagine with the thinner sleeves you'd have when you bore a stock sleeve to 84mm
And what would be the max boost that could be run on this block?
It will also have forged rods, forged pistons, 1mm head gasket.</TD></TR></TABLE>
question: are you going to use iron sleeves or are you thinking of using the stock sleeves

NOSED_CRX_VTEC

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However, if you really want to go 84mm then you will need to RESLEEVE your block with either GE, AEBS, Darton, Benson sleeves. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Thanks thats what I wanted to know.

Now I want to know whats the beter set of sleeves?

egg

so can you bore the B16 to 86 mm with stock sleeves in your running a n/a motor? if not whats the limit, experienced people please.

V-SPEC 1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so can you bore the B16 to 86 mm with stock sleeves in your running a n/a motor? if not whats the limit, experienced people please.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No you can't bore the stock sleeve to 86. Only when you get ductile iron sleeve like GE. Call Golden Eagle for more info.