Full-Race Geoff

here are the pics. You can run 4 of these on an LS block with a Vtec head and you can be SURE the head will be *perfectly* lined up witht he combustion chambers.







... you get the idea.

inspyral

Nice.
So the ends that go into the head are machined to fit the pre-existing holes so you don't have to elarge them? That's pretty clever.

paulzy

iTrader: (1)

that' snice Geoff...I can't remember that well, but doesn't the head bolt go through the dowel? How is it supposed to go through a solid dowel?

Full-Race Geoff

yeah those were the pics i took of the prototypes, the actual parts are very hollow

ill get some more pics when i get back from sema on tuesday, then i go back again on thurs. i was asked by some people to post pics becuase they didnt follow the concept exactly, but you get the idea

paulzy

iTrader: (1)

oh, ok...I get it now

did the guy ever get back to you about the manifold?

PWRVTEC

How much and when can I get some?

AzN_Flava

i think its late and im slow, so you sell 4 things that will make a vtec head fit perfectly onto the ls block? are there any downsides to doing it this way then the other conventional way?

im thinking about oidng a ls vtec, and know i have to enlarge my dowel pins or something... im confused...

sshaikh01

what he said

sshaikh01

post some more pics..
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giooooo

man... thats all i gotta say.. i wish you did this like sept so i didnt have to bring mine to the machine shop.. you and your ideas hahah send me one but mine are already drilled and my head is torqued down alreayd but still on the stupid stand!!
THANKS FOR THE SHIPMENT GEOFF





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[Modified by Giovannie, 8:37 PM 11/5/2002]

AzN_Flava

hey can i have one set too?! that way i dont have to do any machining either... so this makes it plug and play?

TypeC

You still have to tap/seal the oil hole in the head as well as run the external oil line. This just saves the step of opening up the holes in the head (or block, depending on which way you do it).

Full-Race Geoff

Basically just that.

These dowels make it so that anyone can do an LSVTEC that doesnt have a drill press.

In order to properly do the LS/VTEC conversion you are supposed to use a 14mm drill bit, on a drill press, and drill perfectly straight. Most people cant find a 14mm bit so they use a 9/16" drill bit which not only is expensive (usually around 16-20$) but is too big at 14.2 mm. Now that it is 14.2 mm, once the head is set on the block to torque it, there is a ton of play in it.

The dowels we are making allow you to simply put the head on the block, and keep it perfectly straight.

You will still need to tap a 1/8" NPT plug into the vtec port on the block, but that is easy to do with just a 1/8" NPT tap and a 10mm 12point socket/wrench. You wont need a drill press or a huge, hard to find drill bit.

thats the overall idea.

btw, looks good gio

sshaikh01

how much and where do i get me a set???

Full-Race Geoff

they are 40$. to get a set, email me at geoff@full-race.com

thanks

giooooo

your right i was gonna ask you there is slightly play when the head sits on the head slightlike moves.. should i redo my head again? but the thing is its almost done i dont wanna take it apart again

Full-Race Geoff

once you torque it down, just leave it there. dont keep taking your motor apart!! just make sure its as centered as can be before torquing it, thats all

LsTurbo91

Is that manifold spray painted? if so what kind of paint/color?

dfoxengr

now do these press in place or do they just sit there and are able to fall out when the head is off of the block. and do you take paypal?

giooooo

its coated with something its not spray paint ask ff geoff he would know waht that is

boomslang

These seem to be a great idea for those who don't have access to a machine shop.

The best way to do this you use regular Honda head bushings is to use a reamer. Not a drill bit. Drill bits drill irregular shaped holes, even on precision milling machines. A reamer will ream a perfectly round hole, as long as it is used on a quality machine. You can get a 14mm reamer for about $20, but it's almost always a special order item. The reamer will also have to be stoned down slightly to match the bushings, which seem to run in the 13.97mm-13.99mm range.

Also, to center your reamer on top of the existing holes in the head, you need a dial indicator. If one is not used, the reamed holes will not be in proper alignment with everything else (i.e. combustion chambers) and things will be off center.

I cringe when people just use drill presses and eyeballs to enlarge the holes. If they had any idea of the inaccuracy of their work.....

I think these stepped bushings are an excellent alternative.

LsTurbo91

so that block is coated too?

giooooo

nah i was so anoyyed that.. the fact that it was soo dirty.. so i jut painted it with "silver" rustoleum paint with a paint brush it actually looks really clean. cuz my manifold came like that color so im like .. hmm lemme paint my block so it looks clean. my friend painted his block like 3 years ago and it didnt chip.. looks good thou, btw how is your turbo b16 DA doing?


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Kevin

Im just wondering why no one has thought of this earlier?

khang77642

nice !!!