I have a boosted LS right now and I am only making 275 at 15psi. I have rods and pistons, but the head is stock. I am thinking about ls vtec. What will I have to change to do this? What kind of gains can I expect from it.

This is the stuff I know I will need to get/do
-Vtec head...GSR or B16?
-timing belt according to head
-headgasket according to head
-LS Vetc oil lines from stealthmode
-LS Vtec headstuds
-P28 ECU

Am I missing anything or any advice that I could get or tips?

 

u need a vtec head complete (b16 is better than gsr)

oil feed line (which i have one brand new forsale)

golden eagle dowel pin(1/2 is smaller than the other half so u dont need to drill ur block)-which i have a pair brnd new from ge for sale too

head gasket from golden eagle for lsvtec they have choices on there web site on whatever bore u have

a gsr timing belt

gsr water pump (22 tooth)i have this also

gsr oil pump cuz ur running a vtec ls oil pump would still work but i wont recommend it

p28 ecu or what ever ecu and just rechip it done

gsr head studs

goodluck with the built and let me know if u need the parts above email me or aim check my sig


Modified by spoon95eg at 1:17 AM 9/7/2006

 

I am running a GSR oil pump, but I do need a water pump. How much would you be willing to sell the dowlpins and oil lines for? As far as headgasket goes, I had the black honed, and to be honest, I am not sure if they changed the bore, but right now I am just running the stock LS headgasket, so which one should I get? And don't you have to tap and plug something too?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shoebox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am running a GSR oil pump, but I do need a water pump. How much would you be willing to sell the dowlpins and oil lines for? As far as headgasket goes, I had the black honed, and to be honest, I am not sure if they changed the bore, but right now I am just running the stock LS headgasket, so which one should I get? And don't you have to tap and plug something too?</TD></TR></TABLE>


you can run an LS head gasket but I wouldn't recomend re-using it. The ge ls/vtec kit comes with a GSR head gasket. I would recomend getting ARP head studs for a GSR. You have to tap and plug the oil port in the bottom or the VTEC head. If you get a ge ls/vtec kit it comes with everything you need including the dowels, gasket, oil lines, pancake adapter for the oil filter and the tap/plug.

 

Yea I forgot a about the oil tap

Ill sell u my oilfeed and dowel pin for $90 shipped

Get the headgasket and oil tap from ge for 120ish shipped

Somepeople sell the arp for gsr for like90shipped also there u save a lot

The kit from ge cost u about 380
On this deal ur only gonna spend

120+90+90=300 :-) 80dollars off so come grab it now email me or aim check my sig at the bottom thanks

 

dont forget ur gonna need to change out the intake manifold too.

 

the LS/vtec kit from Golden Eagle is not $380, look on ebay, its $200.

 

The kit I'm talking about is the one with everything as in tap oil feed sandwich headgasket dowelpin and arpstuds

The one u talking about is without arp studs and without the sandwich I think

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoon95eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> u need a vtec head complete (b16 is better than gsr)


Modified by spoon95eg at 1:17 AM 9/7/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

just curious how and why you think the b16 head is better?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

just curious how and why you think the b16 head is better?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i was about to ask the same thing

 

i'd personally upgrade the tranny before i'd do the vtec head.

 

Cuz b16 flow better than gsr

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoon95eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cuz b16 flow better than gsr </TD></TR></TABLE>

typical h-t logic

 

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Typical h-t trying to be pro show me a fact on stock b16 head and a gsr head before u argue

I'm just trying to give him my suguestion on what to get and not so do that this is not that thread for arguements go to brown hole dick

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoon95eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Typical h-t trying to be pro show me a fact on stock b16 head and a gsr head before u argue

I'm just trying to give him my suguestion on what to get and not so do that this is not that thread for arguements go to brown hole dick</TD></TR></TABLE>

you forgot to mention, flow is marginal between the two...

gsr heads have:
less cases of cast shift
better port angle entry
better quinch

BUT if you are using a stock head, i'd just get whichever is cheapest

 

Iam just going to use a B16 head cause a buddy is selling it to me complete with mani and dizzy for $400. I don't need the sandwich plate adapter because I have the stealthmode lines that have an extra port. I am not going to reuse my LS hadgasket, I was just wondering if the bores are the same, because I don't know which one to buy. I don't want to upgrade to a GSR tranny becuase it seems to high of RPM's for me on the highway, but LSD would be nice, but way to much money

 

?? I have never seen a Eagle conversion kit with arp head studs, any part #'s?

The kit im referring to includes: oil sandwhich plate, oil feed line to the head, relocating dowel pins for head alignment, tap and plug for the head (no machining) any bore size golden eagle headgasket. $200 shipped.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shoebox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Iam just going to use a B16 head cause a buddy is selling it to me complete with mani and dizzy for $400. I don't need the sandwich plate adapter because I have the stealthmode lines that have an extra port. I am not going to reuse my LS hadgasket, I was just wondering if the bores are the same, because I don't know which one to buy. I don't want to upgrade to a GSR tranny becuase it seems to high of RPM's for me on the highway, but LSD would be nice, but way to much money</TD></TR></TABLE>

the gsr and ls have the same stock 81mm bore, if the machine shop didn't bore it over 81.5mm you'll be ok with the stock GSR head gasket. The GSR tranny is probably the best all round VTEC tranny. The B16 tranny is the tranny that has the terribly low 5th gear and all the gears are really close, not too good for traction off the line with a high torque FI engine pushing it, you'll also be crusing @ 4,000rpms at 70-75mph. The LS tranny gears are too long and it takes nearly forever to hit VTEC. To get the most out of you VTEC head get a VTEC tranny to go with it. The B16 and ITR trannys are optimal for all motor applications and with the b16 tranny you can always take out your LS 5th gear and differential and put it into your b16 housing, you'll be keeping your close gears and have a nice crusing 5th gear. This is my opnion, take it with a grain of salt.

 

thanks for the advice on the tranny, maybe if I run into some money, I will pick one up. I am going to be converting to LSVTEC this winter or spring, but I just want to buy all the parts while I havev money

 

the b16 tranny will be alot cheaper than everything to do a ls/vtec conversion. I'd invest in that first. Your looking at 5-700 bucks shipped to your door for a hydro b16 tranny.

 

I wish mine was that cheap. Try $900-$1100 from salvage yards. They'll break it off in you. Look for months and you might find one for under $700.

 

i purchased mine here off of H-T for 675 shipped to my door. it's a S4C b16 tranny. I've seen them priced as low as 500 + shipping on here. Sure you may have to search but paitience is key to any successful upgrade. IMO Salvage yards are a rip off on b series hydro trannys.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcdelsol93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i purchased mine here off of H-T for 675 shipped to my door. it's a S4C b16 tranny. I've seen them priced as low as 500 + shipping on here. Sure you may have to search but paitience is key to any successful upgrade. IMO Salvage yards are a rip off on b series hydro trannys.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Not sure why, but why do people have overheating problems and other problems when going ls/vtec. Since you have forged internals you probably wont have the same issues though. I was looking at an ls/vtec motor we had, and I couldnt tell which part of the motor had been machined. We have the oil line from the back of the block and the dowel pins for positioning, but I couldnt find the parts where people said it had to be sent out to be machined in order to work. btw if you need the line and dowel pins let me know and ill check if their complete or missing anything

 

WOW, there is allot of bad advice on this thread!