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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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Default LS/Vtec Build -1st Start Help!

hello HT , i ve been tryin to finish my project for the longest . its almost at that time to start it up , all the block and head work was done at a local machine shop , installation of the engine, and turbo syst. is on the works by me.

heres a small list of what the build consist of :

B18B1 Block
Wiseco pistons 10.5:1
Acl bearings,
Eagle H beam rods
ARP Rod bolts
micro polished and balanced crank
new OEM Oil Pump
new OEM P72 Water Pump
GE Block guard.
B16A2 head
Cometic head Gasket
ARP headstuds
Port & polished head
3 angle valve job ( said it right ?)
supertech springs and retainers
new valve seals.
Skunk 2 Pro series IM
Hondata IM gasket
AEM FPR and Fuel Rail

GSR Tranny LSD
CC stg 4 Clutch
Chase bays Clutch line

Precision 6262 JB T3 .63 AR
BRM Ram Horn Manif.
2 1/4 IC piping
32x12x3 IC
3'' BWR Downpipe
3'' Catback exhaust
ID 1000s Injectors
car is a 97 HB and i have a P28 which i plan to buy the S300.

i will keep adding when i remember more.

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can u guys help me on what Oil should use for initial start, computer?, how long first time running (no driving), spark plugs for initial and after,

another question i have only one plug on my harness for the O2 sensor, should i eliminate that since i will be using an AEM wideband or keep it .

thanks in advance.

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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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what i would do..
remove the turbo stuff and run the car n/a on regular oil. i ran 10w-30, broke the engine in and got it tuned. after it was tuned i installed the turbo and then i ran synthetic oil. i live in texas so im using heavier weight oil 20w-30/40/50 (which i can get, my tuner suggestion as well)
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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I'd run a xenocron basemap ( your setup looks pretty common. I'm sure Chris has something to load into your s300).

Use good old fashioned non-detergent oil (pep boys, autozone for private label) cheapo stuff. Now the debate is fast break in methodology vs. slow break-in methodology. I go 500-700 miles regular driving, very little freeway to get clutch broken in at the same time as the engine. I do 20 minute start up and run... Drain, check for metal, then change oil with more pep boys oil for the 500-700 mile run on the basemap given.

If no basemap, stay with stock injectors and ECU, disconnect a charge pipe so that no positive pressure is seen. ( you will not "over spin" the turbo unless you disconnect the oil feed/return system .) go through your break-in process, then reconnect the system at the dyno and replace injectors for the ones you plan to use.
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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LOOKING GOOD KEEP UP THE WORK
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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Thanks for all the fast replies.
JustYncredible: I am really tryin to avoid removing anythin,

TheShodan: thanks for your input, choice b sounds very good, but I'm affraid I don't have a chip on my P28 or another ECU I can temporary use, I was lookin at xenocron.com and they have one that says" basemap for S300.. Etc etc, is that the one ?
What about my Boost gauge, should I connect that too?
Is the NGK BKR8-EIX good for this set up ?
Sorry I'm no expert, first build doin it resourcing from everywhere.

1sickeg718 : thanks , I'm tryin !!
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dicxonjim
Thanks for all the fast replies.
JustYncredible: I am really tryin to avoid removing anythin,

TheShodan: thanks for your input, choice b sounds very good, but I'm affraid I don't have a chip on my P28 or another ECU I can temporary use, I was lookin at xenocron.com and they have one that says" basemap for S300.. Etc etc, is that the one ?

Well, more than likely you'd see options to e-mail or call about the specifics of your setup so he can set some parameters. remember, its not perfect, so be careful

What about my Boost gauge, should I connect that too?

Sure, you can do that.. If you disconnect the pipe, it will only go to zero anyway.

Is the NGK BKR8-EIX good for this set up ?
Unless you're running higher boost pressures, just stick with heat range 7

Sorry I'm no expert, first build doin it resourcing from everywhere.

1sickeg718 : thanks , I'm tryin !!
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Old Nov 12, 2012 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dicxonjim
hello HT , i ve been tryin to finish my project for the longest . its almost at that time to start it up , all the block and head work was done at a local machine shop , installation of the engine, and turbo syst. is on the works by me.

heres a small list of what the build consist of :

B18B1 Block
Wiseco pistons 10.5:1
Acl bearings,
Eagle H beam rods
ARP Rod bolts
micro polished and balanced crank
new OEM Oil Pump
new OEM P72 Water Pump
GE Block guard.
B16A2 head
Cometic head Gasket
ARP headstuds
Port & polished head
3 angle valve job ( said it right ?)
supertech springs and retainers
new valve seals.
Skunk 2 Pro series IM
Hondata IM gasket
AEM FPR and Fuel Rail

GSR Tranny LSD
CC stg 4 Clutch
Chase bays Clutch line

Precision 6262 JB T3 .63 AR
BRM Ram Horn Manif.
2 1/4 IC piping
32x12x3 IC
3'' BWR Downpipe
3'' Catback exhaust
ID 1000s Injectors
car is a 97 HB and i have a P28 which i plan to buy the S300.

i will keep adding when i remember more.

hres a pic




can u guys help me on what Oil should use for initial start, computer?, how long first time running (no driving), spark plugs for initial and after,

another question i have only one plug on my harness for the O2 sensor, should i eliminate that since i will be using an AEM wideband or keep it .

thanks in advance.
what are your Hp goals? what kind of fuel are you going to be tunning on? iam doing pretty much same build. looks great! awesome job!
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Old Nov 12, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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r1paniccia: My HP goals are in the 4xx Range if safe to be, not sure if it will b possible,but I got my hopes up, will be on 93 Octane for now, thanks man!

This weekend I took apart my Front knuckles, LCAs , and brake Calipers to get sand blasted and painted, also replaced both inner and outer tie rods. !! Will post pics tomorrow !
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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Took some parts off for Sand blasting and Paint .

Before:

Sand blasted:


Final Results:


Closer look.

Had to change of the Caliper Pistons, so went to the junk yard and got one for $3 bucks!!
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Got a 340 Stealth Aeromotive Fuel pump,, I already have installed a walbro, should I replace it with the aeromotive or stay as is !? ,
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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depends upon power goals. Under 550whp? Stay with with the Walboro 255lph G42 Hi pressure pump (assuming that's what you mean by "walboro")
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 10:57 PM
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e mail chris harris with your setup and he can make you a basemap for your setup all you have to do is paypal him the money for the basemap and he will e mail you back a basemap to upload into your s300 here is his e mail address chrisharris@xenocron.com or call him (845).504.5340
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
depends upon power goals. Under 550whp? Stay with with the Walboro 255lph G42 Hi pressure pump (assuming that's what you mean by "walboro")
yes power goals are in the 400ish if my set up is capable of and safe to be at that HP range. ??? ,a friend gave me the 340 Aer. pump , because he upgraded his system,for something else. i guess i will keep it for a later on upgrade to E85 ??( maybe ),,
i dont see where i put Walboro ??? lol
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by artie89
e mail chris harris with your setup and he can make you a basemap for your setup all you have to do is paypal him the money for the basemap and he will e mail you back a basemap to upload into your s300 here is his e mail address chrisharris@xenocron.com or call him (845).504.5340
i was told from a local shop , that the S300 v2 comes already with like 40 base maps that i can choose from . by motor set up ! .. true ?
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dicxonjim
i was told from a local shop , that the S300 v2 comes already with like 40 base maps that i can choose from . by motor set up ! .. true ?
There are some built in to the software yes...but chances are, most are not close to the typical setups these days.
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