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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 03:52 AM
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Is it possible to lower the compression down to 9.01-9.5.1 using a thicker headgasket on a b16a2 and would it be practical for around 320whp because id rather not mess with pistons and rods until next year in the meantime i can concentrate on the tuning side hondata etc, im gonna be running a t3/t4e .60 trim and hoping for around 300whp at around 15psi

If it is possible what headgasket will take me there?? anyone tried it whats your experiences??


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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 04:49 AM
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No personal experience, but have seen it done plenty of times...

http://www.inlinepro.com/catal...d=124
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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Yes. This approach has been done before..
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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hmm so it is an option tempting, the question is how much power will i be able to run with this setup and what gasket will get me there.
any experiences etc
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 05:49 AM
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any experiences with lowering compression with headgaskets?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:27 AM
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roflmao 300 dollars for a head gasket. THats jus ******* stupid.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRTT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">roflmao 300 dollars for a head gasket. THats jus ******* stupid.</TD></TR></TABLE>

considering the center section is re useable its not too bad..The setup works well. I used to run it. Quite a few stock motors making 350-400whp with it.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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if you just run 12-13 psi on stock headgasket tuned you should be close to the same power level as 15psi with the thicker headgasket... just the tq #'s wont be there, correct?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you just run 12-13 psi on stock headgasket tuned you should be close to the same power level as 15psi with the thicker headgasket... just the tq #'s wont be there, correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The power loss you see going from 10.2:1 to 9:1 is not going to be as great as 2 or 3 pounds of boost.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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I would be very surpised if a head gasket alone could bring it down from 10.2 to 9.. i was thinking more along the lines of 9.5:1.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would be very surpised if a head gasket alone could bring it down from 10.2 to 9.. i was thinking more along the lines of 9.5:1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

2mm will drop it a full point
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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what about the time belt, when putting on those thick head gaskets?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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you have to make up for it with cam gears...Usually advancing the intake and exhaust cams 2 deg works.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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maybe a stupid question ....but how thick is a stock ITR b18C6 headgasket ?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would be very surpised if a head gasket alone could bring it down from 10.2 to 9.. i was thinking more along the lines of 9.5:1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A 2MM headgasket will take a B16 to 9:1 compression. A 3MM gasket will take it to 8.25:1.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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where can i get a 2mm headgasket or is it possible to use 2 oem headgaskets??
how much power will stock internals last with lowering compression like this??
any experienced ppl anybody else tried it
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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my motor has been together for about a year @ 315whp on pump gas. You could prolly safely push 350-375 on race gas.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mpir3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my motor has been together for about a year @ 315whp on pump gas. You could prolly safely push 350-375 on race gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what gasket/s u running? whats your setup
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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Inline pro 2mm gasket and ARP's. I sold the car a month ago..
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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Completely stock head and bottom end?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Completely stock head and bottom end? </TD></TR></TABLE>

umm....i painted the block
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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thats interesting i may use this method temoprarily until i dont get pistons etc
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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any more experiences with this
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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which is better the cometic or the inlinepro?
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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from what i was told, the cometics now only drop the comp about .2 or .3 points, they used to make a 2mm gasket but don't anymore.
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