Okay i've owned one del sol with a gsr swap and i was pretty happy with it, but it was totalled due to my stupidity. On to the actual question i am looking to drop my new one into the mid to low 12s maybe even a high high 11 but nothing more than that will all interior daily driven. What exactely would i need to do outside of b20 vtec turbo'd would i acually have to sleeve the motor or would a b20 with aftermarket pistons and rods do the job? Figured somebody here would be able to help me out thanks.

 

well build the motor and if it doesnt go 12's then keep doing mods til you hit 12's.

 

boost until you cant boost no more, then boost some more.

 

guy in my area has a 00 civic si built bottom end and stock head including t/b/ and i/m

11psi i think 330hp

he ran an 11.9 at woodburn strip in oregon, they sent him home because he didnt have a cage.

keep in mind that was in a 2500 pound car.

 

You can be running High 12's with a stock K20a2 motor and a K-pro.

 

turbo, and slicks ought to do it. whats your budget? thats very important ya know.

 

You can hit mid 12's with bolt on's an slicks in an h22 hatch. no turbo needed just a little gas

 

You can hit 12's with bolt on's an slicks in an itr hatch, no turbo needed just a little gas

 

im gonna hit 12s hopefully with my d16 built turbo

 

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There ya go bro!

 

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Go for 11's...

 

well for one thing, the b20 block comes stock with the weakest sleeves ever made. lol so I would resleeve it put rods and pistons, and boost like you never boosted before.

 

just go LS and boost the hell out of it. it would be a cheap fast car

 

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you wont be able to do this in a del sol they are actually heavier than a hatch.

Id suggest boost or a k20. If you are boosting a b20 sleeve it or dont go over 7psi or 7500rpms, even then its still risky.

 

okay so an ls with a built bottom end would be the better choice is what im am getting from all of this. what i am trying to do is stay away from sleeving unless completely necessary. also can i hit that mark without the turbo. i am not looking for a crazy track car that gets **** mileage like i said mid to low 12s maybe a little higher i appreciate all of the suggestions how much would a k20 swap cost after everything or maybe even an h swap. i am not a newbie and i understand you do pay for what you get in return just trying to get some basic ideas on what i may wanna do

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solridr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay so an ls with a built bottom end would be the better choice is what im am getting from all of this. what i am trying to do is stay away from sleeving unless completely necessary. also can i hit that mark without the turbo. i am not looking for a crazy track car that gets **** mileage like i said mid to low 12s maybe a little higher i appreciate all of the suggestions how much would a k20 swap cost after everything or maybe even an h swap. i am not a newbie and i understand you do pay for what you get in return just trying to get some basic ideas on what i may wanna do</TD></TR></TABLE>

K-swap will cost you around 7g-8g after all the the parts and the motor. We have a customer in an EK Hatch, Stock K20a2, K-pro, Intake/Exhaust running 12.8's. He gets 38-40 miles per gallon on the interstate.

 

just buy my car

 

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K-swap will cost you around 7g-8g after all the the parts and the motor. We have a customer in an EK Hatch, Stock K20a2, K-pro, Intake/Exhaust running 12.8's. He gets 38-40 miles per gallon on the interstate. </TD></TR></TABLE>

damn thats a nice investement ! I mean the fuel consumption is really low for how the engine perform

 

ls turbo

 

I had a B20b in my hatch last winter. Ran 12.7 @ 109.9 w/ a 2.0 60ft time @ 8psi

If you plan on sticking with stock sleevs a Vtec head would be a waste of money. Basicaly all the Bseries blocks/sleeves can only handle around the same amount of power safley. If go the cheapest route, (LS turbo) If you plan on sleeving and making more than the 300whp range Id say go for the Vtec head.

My $.02

 

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11psi i think 330hp

he ran an 11.9 at woodburn strip in oregon, they sent him home because he didnt have a cage.

keep in mind that was in a 2500 pound car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I too will be sent home one day...lol...

 

you should be able to hit mid 12's in that car with a ls or gsr stock block w/ around 300hp... just make sure it has a good tune and it will last. forget the b20 (weaker sleeves). if you ever want much more that 350, i would get the gsr.

 

Just for reference, I ran a 12.9 @ 111 mph with a 2.1 60" on 14" street tires. This was in a EK hatch with a stock B18B turbo putting down 240 hp/207tq.

 

importbuilders.com built B16A2, built head from them, 57 Trim garrett turbo on about 16-18 psi is going to do it for me.