Looking to hit 200whp+ with D series, what does it take? NO FLAMING!!!
02-02-2006, 03:02 PM
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Looking to hit 200whp+ with D series, what does it take? NO FLAMING!!!
MOTOR: D16a6
BOOST: JACKSON RACING SUPERCHARGER, 99 EX crank pulley
HEADER: OBX 4-1 Stainless
EXHAUST: TRUST/GREDDY CATBACK
PLANS: port and polished head with 'turbo cam' or custom grind
1.8L stroker motor (1.7L D series crank, sleeved)
MORE BOOST.... what pulley setup to hit 10 PSI???
DYNO TIME, DYNO TIME, DYNO TIME.
I want to prove that I can hit this mark.... and I know with some work, it can be done. (plus money)
dont tell me to go turbo......... ive done that
dont tell me to swap........ ive done that
dont tell me to add nitrous..... ive done that too.
I want a NON-VTEC SOHC relying on ONLY the supercharger and a great build/tune to hit my goal.
<FONT SIZE="6">200+whp</FONT> ???
BOOST: JACKSON RACING SUPERCHARGER, 99 EX crank pulley
HEADER: OBX 4-1 Stainless
EXHAUST: TRUST/GREDDY CATBACK
PLANS: port and polished head with 'turbo cam' or custom grind
1.8L stroker motor (1.7L D series crank, sleeved)
MORE BOOST.... what pulley setup to hit 10 PSI???
DYNO TIME, DYNO TIME, DYNO TIME.
I want to prove that I can hit this mark.... and I know with some work, it can be done. (plus money)
dont tell me to go turbo......... ive done that
dont tell me to swap........ ive done that
dont tell me to add nitrous..... ive done that too.
I want a NON-VTEC SOHC relying on ONLY the supercharger and a great build/tune to hit my goal.
<FONT SIZE="6">200+whp</FONT> ???
02-02-2006, 03:17 PM
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its easily possible.....get a header, good exhaust, good management, JRSC w/ the smallest pulley possible, and do some head work to help it flow as best it can. Get a wilder cam too..i'm sure it wouldn't hurt!
02-02-2006, 03:31 PM
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Re: Looking to hit 200whp+ with D series, what does it take? NO FLAMING!!! (Semnos)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Semnos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bigger SC..m64 maybe..?</TD></TR></TABLE>
what modifications would it take to bolt to the D series intake?
m64 is from the B series correct?
or is that the magnus thunderbird supercharger?
what modifications would it take to bolt to the D series intake?
m64 is from the B series correct?
or is that the magnus thunderbird supercharger?
02-02-2006, 05:05 PM
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Re: Looking to hit 200whp+ with D series, what does it take? NO FLAMING!!! (STREETWERKZ)
its an m62, and its on b18c, and h22. Check out the new adapter setup Endyn is selling for your d motor, to run the mp62.
http://www.theoldone.com
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02-02-2006, 05:30 PM
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Re: Looking to hit 200whp+ with D series, what does it take? NO FLAMING!!! (sc4dr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sc4dr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its an m62, and its on b18c, and h22. Check out the new adapter setup Endyn is selling for your d motor, to run the mp62.
http://www.theoldone.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
awesome....
so i'd have to sell off my current JRSC, and buy the M62 charger and magnusen bypass valve, send them off to endyn. ?
does anyone know what the endyn modification costs?
or total with NEW blower + endyn?
im guessing this blower doesnt need to spin as fast as my current supercharger to make the same or more power? and pulley upgrades to run it faster WOULD net greater results.
http://www.theoldone.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
awesome....
so i'd have to sell off my current JRSC, and buy the M62 charger and magnusen bypass valve, send them off to endyn. ?
does anyone know what the endyn modification costs?
or total with NEW blower + endyn?
im guessing this blower doesnt need to spin as fast as my current supercharger to make the same or more power? and pulley upgrades to run it faster WOULD net greater results.
02-02-2006, 07:07 PM
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Re: Looking to hit 200whp+ with D series, what does it take? NO FLAMING!!! (STREETWERKZ)
no they are a direct bolt on to endyn's kit. so you buy the endyn kit, and then jsut bolt it all together. the blower does not need to go to endyn. you will have to tell them what kind psi your planning on running. so they knwo what pulley to include in your kit.
02-03-2006, 10:15 AM
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Re: Looking to hit 200whp+ with D series, what does it take? NO FLAMING!!! (STREETWERKZ)
more help please.
just wondering if the long stroke..... stroker motor would net great results. or am i better off just adding a lot of boost?
any examples of D series OVER 200hp with a JRSC ???
just wondering if the long stroke..... stroker motor would net great results. or am i better off just adding a lot of boost?
any examples of D series OVER 200hp with a JRSC ???
02-03-2006, 10:22 AM
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Re: Looking to hit 200whp+ with D series, what does it take? NO FLAMING!!! (STREETWERKZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just wondering if the long stroke..... stroker motor would net great results. or am i better off just adding a lot of boost? </TD></TR></TABLE>
The d-series is already a long stroke motor, you dont wanna stroke it anymore IMO.
liam
The d-series is already a long stroke motor, you dont wanna stroke it anymore IMO.
liam
02-03-2006, 10:29 AM
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Re: Looking to hit 200whp+ with D series, what does it take? NO FLAMING!!! (liam821)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The d-series is already a long stroke motor, you dont wanna stroke it anymore IMO.
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i was working on a 1.7L crank D series for my turbo EG.... but i think i want to do that with this supercharged motor.
long stroke = torque.
basically i am going an old school hot rod way.
long stroke, more displacement, blower.
keeping it NON-VTEC.
liam</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was working on a 1.7L crank D series for my turbo EG.... but i think i want to do that with this supercharged motor.
long stroke = torque.
basically i am going an old school hot rod way.
long stroke, more displacement, blower.
keeping it NON-VTEC.
02-03-2006, 11:16 AM
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Re: Looking to hit 200whp+ with D series, what does it take? NO FLAMING!!! (SovXietday)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SovXietday »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm trying to do the exact same thing. 
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want to race to the goal of 200?
we can motivate eachother to get off our asses.
</TD></TR></TABLE>want to race to the goal of 200?
we can motivate eachother to get off our asses.
02-03-2006, 11:42 AM
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honestly, I think you should seriously consider doing a vtec head. Besides the much larger cam selection, even if you had a custom cam made to similar vtec profiles, it wouldnt be very streetable and you would have a hard time idling it.
Personally I'd do a vtec head and sleeve it out to 78mm (like you mentioned earlier) to make it 1.8l. 10psi and shoot for 250whp.
If you still decide to get a custom cam made, talk to Delta cams.
Personally I'd do a vtec head and sleeve it out to 78mm (like you mentioned earlier) to make it 1.8l. 10psi and shoot for 250whp.
If you still decide to get a custom cam made, talk to Delta cams.
02-03-2006, 11:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Unsivil_audio »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honestly, I think you should seriously consider doing a vtec head. Besides the much larger cam selection, even if you had a custom cam made to similar vtec profiles, it wouldnt be very streetable and you would have a hard time idling it.
Personally I'd do a vtec head and sleeve it out to 78mm (like you mentioned earlier) to make it 1.8l. 10psi and shoot for 250whp.
If you still decide to get a custom cam made, talk to Delta cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i'd rather NOT do a vtec head. i know it would be easier to make the power...
but i want to do it non-vtec to show the D series guys, it can be done.
Personally I'd do a vtec head and sleeve it out to 78mm (like you mentioned earlier) to make it 1.8l. 10psi and shoot for 250whp.
If you still decide to get a custom cam made, talk to Delta cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i'd rather NOT do a vtec head. i know it would be easier to make the power...
but i want to do it non-vtec to show the D series guys, it can be done.
02-03-2006, 12:00 PM
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Re: (STREETWERKZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">want to race to the goal of 200?
we can motivate eachother to get off our asses. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You'd win the race for sure, I'm a highschooler making 8.75 an hour with 20hours a week if I'm lucky.
But the motivation thing I'm up for.
we can motivate eachother to get off our asses. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You'd win the race for sure, I'm a highschooler making 8.75 an hour with 20hours a week if I'm lucky.
But the motivation thing I'm up for.
02-03-2006, 12:02 PM
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i'd say for a high schooler.... youre up to a good start.
in HS i was just adding a 50 shot dry kit to every car i owned. HAHA
in HS i was just adding a 50 shot dry kit to every car i owned. HAHA
02-03-2006, 12:15 PM
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On another note I've checked out the piston speed of a d17 versus a d16, and I'd still feel pretty comfortable rapping it to 8k with correct headwork.
02-03-2006, 01:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Unsivil_audio »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On another note I've checked out the piston speed of a d17 versus a d16, and I'd still feel pretty comfortable rapping it to 8k with correct headwork. </TD></TR></TABLE>
ohhhhhhh ****!
I think I'll gain some serious torque with a JRSC and longer stroke D series.
</TD></TR></TABLE>ohhhhhhh ****!
I think I'll gain some serious torque with a JRSC and longer stroke D series.
02-03-2006, 01:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't waste your time building the motor for a measily 200whp. </TD></TR></TABLE>
why not? its what i want to do.
my car, my money, my motor.
ive done swaps, nitrous, and turbo before.
i want this.
and 200+HP and 160+TQ out of a roadrace car is CRAZY.
why not? its what i want to do.
my car, my money, my motor.
ive done swaps, nitrous, and turbo before.
i want this.
and 200+HP and 160+TQ out of a roadrace car is CRAZY.