CivicVX94

i'm in the process of building a fully built ls turbo. my goal is to make 400-450whp and i can't decide on which turbo....

i would love to run a gt series(or any bb turbo) but i'm not sure if funds will allow this.....
so what would you guys recommend?
if a bb turbo is something i should seriously consider, which would be best a gt35r or gt30r?

Thanks for any help

and i have read some of the ls-t thread but there is no way i'm goign to read 200 pages

Dark_Teg

I am working with the same motor with the same goals and I am going with the GT30R.

Quick spool is the main reason. It spools 1000 rpm's quicker than other turbos of the same size

CivicVX94

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dark_Teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am working with the same motor with the same goals and I am going with the GT30R.

Quick spool is the main reason. It spools 1000 rpm's quicker than other turbos of the same size</TD></TR></TABLE>
hmmm....i didn't know think that bb turbo's spooled that much faster?

Can anyone else confirm that a gt30r would work good for a built ls-t set up?i want something to hold boost and make power to 8.5k-9k rpms

thanks for the reply man

quicksilver1689

SC30 might be in your future.

NVturbo

Go with a PRECISION SC61!!

CivicVX94

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NVturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Go with a PRECISION SC61!! </TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quicksilver1689 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SC30 might be in your future.</TD></TR></TABLE>

idk **** about precision turbo's, what's the difference in the two and do you guys have any specs on them?

fabe85

I personally run the sc61 and i love it,
its a t3/t4 .63
20 psi on that turbo should give you 450-500 on an ls.

spec_v_kid

i am using SC6152E on my built gsr, made 408whp and full boost around 4500rpm hold it all the way up to 9700rpm....

BB turbo is nicer though... But other BB, Precision SC series will be ur best pick...

CivicVX94

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spec_v_kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am using SC6152E on my built gsr, made 408whp and full boost around 4500rpm hold it all the way up to 9700rpm....

BB turbo is nicer though... But other BB, Precision SC series will be ur best pick...</TD></TR></TABLE>
what's the setup on the built gsr? b/c if you only made 408whp with a gsr, it'd be hard for me to be the the 400-450whp range with that turbo with my ls.
what kind of dyno was this on also?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fabe85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally run the sc61 and i love it,
its a t3/t4 .63
20 psi on that turbo should give you 450-500 on an ls.
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what's your setup and do you have any dyno numbers?

thanks for all your help

boostedcivicsir

sc61, harry at pte is great. been dealing with him since i had my t type 10 years ago. also maybe a gt30r. i think the 35 is a little large, putting the power out of where you want it.

we are doin a 3067 i think on friends gsr looking for 450-500 on the high end.

CivicVX94

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sc61, harry at pte is great. been dealing with him since i had my t type 10 years ago. also maybe a gt30r. i think the 35 is a little large, putting the power out of where you want it.

we are doin a 3067 i think on friends gsr looking for 450-500 on the high end.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ya i'm leaning towards a sc6169e or sc6176e....which yould be better?
and 400-4500whp is just my absolute minimum goal, if i surpass taht that's great, so i just want to make sure i have a turbo which can get me to at LEAST that

alpha

I have a built LS with Crower 62404 camshafts and a GT3076RLE. I see 9lbs - 9.5lbs by 4,000RPM. If I feel better today I am going to install the boost controller and up the boost slowly to about 20lbs this weekend. I will try to post datalogs this weekend. I'm not saying a GT3076RLE will make 450whp on a stock port LS head though

Mugencrxsir1

Quick spool is the main reason. It spools 1000 rpm's quicker than other turbos of the same size[/QUOTE]


Most BB turbos are only 300rpm quicker to spool than the thrust bearings, it's a misconception, and there are dyno charts on HT to prove it.

boosted92

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Quick spool is the main reason. It spools 1000 rpm's quicker than other turbos of the same size</TD></TR></TABLE>


Most BB turbos are only 300rpm quicker to spool than the thrust bearings, it's a misconception, and there are dyno charts on HT to prove it. [/QUOTE]

What isn't a misconception is the GT30R has a pair of very efficient wheels and will spool up quite a bit quicker than a typical journal bearing turbo that will support as much horsepower as it. You're looking at a T3/60-1 HiFi to be able to support as much HP as the GT30R, and the 30R will spool about 1000 RPM's quicker than a .63 A/R Stage 5 hot side setup on a T3/60-1 HiFi.

TheShodan

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Most BB turbos are only 300rpm quicker to spool than the thrust bearings, it's a misconception, and there are dyno charts on HT to prove it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What isn't a misconception is the GT30R has a pair of very efficient wheels and will spool up quite a bit quicker than a typical journal bearing turbo that will support as much horsepower as it. You're looking at a T3/60-1 HiFi to be able to support as much HP as the GT30R, and the 30R will spool about 1000 RPM's quicker than a .63 A/R Stage 5 hot side setup on a T3/60-1 HiFi.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately I Totally disagree with this.... There are plenty of journal bearing setups that can do the similar result, it's all in what you know what is available and used..

JDMs1eeper

spend $200-300 on a T70 from SSAC.

Dont spend $1,000+ on a turbo unless you just hard-core and really need that extra spool for some reason...

alpha

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMs1eeper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">spend $200-300 on a T70 from SSAC.

Dont spend $1,000+ on a turbo unless you just hard-core and really need that extra spool for some reason... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I would take a GT3255E (non ball bearing) or GT35S over anything from SSAC

S@nt0s

TURBONETICS 62-1 stage 5 wheel
its teh **** with a LS.... thats what i ran on my 85mm LS......

alpha

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: SnoFlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> TURBONETICS 62-1 stage 5 wheel
its teh **** with a LS.... thats what i ran on my 85mm LS...... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I like my fast spooling no power making $1,000.00 wasted (actually less but ...) GT3076RLE

S@nt0s

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I like my fast spooling no power making $1,000.00 wasted (actually less but ...) GT3076RLE </TD></TR></TABLE>


actually i saw full spool at about 3800-4000 which was shocking but its the truth!
my t3t4 on the same set up full spooled at 3200-3500

alpha

I believe it. Considering you were at about 2020cc displacement with an 85mm bore and an open downpipe

JDMs1eeper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: SnoFlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
actually i saw full spool at about 3800-4000 which was shocking but its the truth!
my t3t4 on the same set up full spooled at 3200-3500 </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup! I spooled the same turbo up 26psi @ 4k w/ full 3inch exhaust on my 84mm LSvtec

JDMs1eeper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would take a GT3255E (non ball bearing) or GT35S over anything from SSAC </TD></TR></TABLE>

I would to if I were a hard core ****... hehe... I actualy have a garrett GT4088 chillin for my next project , But foir $200-$300 it isnt a bad deal for that T70. I have used them in the past for a while and they hold up great and make good power. I made 370whp @ 11psi w/ my 84mm LSvtec with one.

CivicVX94

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMs1eeper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">spend $200-300 on a T70 from SSAC.
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haha idk man i'd rather drop a couple extra hundred and get a turbo from a company with a better rep
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I would take a GT3255E (non ball bearing) or GT35S over anything from SSAC </TD></TR></TABLE>
i've never even heard of a gt3255e...who sells those anyways?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: SnoFlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> TURBONETICS 62-1 stage 5 wheel
its teh **** with a LS.... thats what i ran on my 85mm LS...... </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha ya i wish i had an 85mm block...then maybe i'd go with that but i think on MY setup...that turbo would suck ***
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. I'm not saying a GT3076RLE will make 450whp on a stock port LS head though</TD></TR></TABLE>
my head isn't stock...it's a p75 fully ported and polished with deshrouded valves and polished combustion chambers
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMs1eeper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I would to if I were a hard core ****... hehe... I actualy have a garrett GT4088 chillin for my next project , But foir $200-$300 it isnt a bad deal for that T70. I have used them in the past for a while and they hold up great and make good power. I made 370whp @ 11psi w/ my 84mm LSvtec with one. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i don't doubt that an ssac t70 can't make that kind of power, but i do doubt that it can do that for any amount of time. i've heard STORIES about those seals going to hell in no time..but i guess the stories can be lies, i'd just rather play it safe

alpha

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i've never even heard of a gt3255e...who sells those anyways?
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Any Precision or Garrett dealer. I had one a while back. Great turbo