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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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Ok so i want to buy a liquid intercooler but i would like to know the ups and downs of an liquid intercooler? I had one when i had my vortech supercharger but i dont know why people dont use them?

any help would help i just want to get my car done and o ya my goal is to hit in the 500-600 hp range i dont know if the intercooler will handle all that power?
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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A liquid intercooler works great when you are able to constantly change the water, once the water gets warm it is useless and is doing more harm then helping. When you have it on a street car it is very hard to keep the water cool enough for it to actually be efficient, i have done some liquid to air intercoolers on street cars with a second radiator and 5 gallon water cell to try have a large volume of water in the system at all times in order to try and keep it cool. Even on a cool day the water does get warm to the touch. Some of the guys will pack the 5 gallon cell with ice and only turn the water pump on just before they are going to beat on it and then let it run for a little after then shut it down.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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For a street car you could always play with different solutions instead of straight water to help keep it cool. That is if you wanted to get into it that much haha
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by miller
A liquid intercooler works great when you are able to constantly change the water, once the water gets warm it is useless and is doing more harm then helping. When you have it on a street car it is very hard to keep the water cool enough for it to actually be efficient, i have done some liquid to air intercoolers on street cars with a second radiator and 5 gallon water cell to try have a large volume of water in the system at all times in order to try and keep it cool. Even on a cool day the water does get warm to the touch. Some of the guys will pack the 5 gallon cell with ice and only turn the water pump on just before they are going to beat on it and then let it run for a little after then shut it down.
Your systems are not well designed then. I run a 2 gallon resevoir, pump and seperate heat exchanger in a street driven setup and have IAT's 20-25*F over ambient at idle or WOT. A2W systems are great for the street and FAR more efficient than air to air... just a physical fact. Granted they are more complicated and heavier but they are also more compact.

Proper sizing of the components, as in any other system, is important and takes experience.

Understand the pros and cons of both A2W and A2A and decide which meets your goals... and be wary of false information.

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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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LOL ^ most of them i have seen once the water starts getting "warm" or saturated with heat theres
it pretty much stays there.

Miller is a very credible person
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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That's because most people don't design or implement them correctly. I've seen many with tiny little radiators, or a decent sized radiator but tiny little fittings on the tank that don't let any water flow, or high-pressure/low-volume pumps that are not appropriate, etc. Here's one that I used at the track that worked really well. I drove it on the street and with successive WOT highway pulls on an 85 degree day the IAT's never exceeded 100:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1518026
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