pornstarSR

This is something that intrest me, a friend of mine had his car built by jackson racing technicians,(not internals but charger and fuel system and electronics and what not) we just went to a dyno meet at AEM, he ran his car, supposibly on a 8lb upgrade pulley....it ran 204.7hp highest out of 3 runs....that is rediculous, im sorry but spedning all that money on the charger and getting a wopping 40 more hp for 8lbs.....interesting, so we visit jackson out here(because they are based out of santa barbara, the sales department and some techs) they seem to be stumped, and now his car is even slower, it wont go, you give it gas it doesnt move.....i bet you can tune the crap out of the system if you had hondata but for the money $6000 for charger and boost upgrade.....not worth it in my eyes......

im not raging on jackson i think those guys are great, just seem to be fluffing up there power potential, they say 40% gain on 5lbs and 55-60% on 8lbs

you tell me

162hp stock 200 type R

204.7hp Jackson boosted 8lbs

just something to think about

CKim

Then again.. there's also rboosted who's pushing 260 or something at 8~9 pounds.

pornstarSR

they had an r that they bosted and was running a number liek that but they didnt tell everyone that it was running 110 octane

i bet it can be done, dont get me wrong just telling people my experience

dbman96

Your friend is lucky to be over 200 hp - the JRSC type-Rs are notorious for making very very little power.

pornstarSR

hey any power is welcome power its jut the amount of money and time and the power potential that they state and the power potential that you actually get seems to be different..

jinxproof99

type r motors don't like 8-9 lbs of boost unless they're tuned properly. if it was, he should be making close to 250+. i made 230 w/ a stock gsr motor and 8 lb pulley.

pornstarSR

the gsr's are know to be more power able from the jackson 8lbs kits

threatcon13

so what is your friend gonna do?

pornstarSR

dont know yet hes talking to jackson right now, seeing if they can fix it.......the most interesting part is this is the second friend with a type r that has had problems, the first one took it off and he says its faster than when it was poopercharged.....but his was only 5 lbs

92SiTurbo

i have to say for the money and amount of power the type-r makes with jackson kit you'll be better off buying a turbo kit. Type-r's dump to much full at high rpm for the super charger.

can't wait boost on the way and my Stage 4b Hondata. Finally got my J.G Pro Series block all together now it's just a matter of gettng everything elae together and getting the motor back in the car and tuned with 650 RC injectors.

pornstarSR

hey you dont have ot tell me that i know that, plus the tunabilty is better, but the fact is that turbo's are more risk just because the the properties of it, you have to have some big money and patience to drive a turbo type r, and tune it right

dbman96

More power on less boost pressure with cooler intake charge... yeah, that's a real bitch for reliability. The only "risk" with a turbo is in the hands that install it (or the ones that keep turning up the boost controller).

Hey does your car have any identifying marks? I work in Carpinteria and drive thru SB in the morning and evening every day now! I'll keep my eyes out for ya...

Charged-R

Dude, 40 HP is a lot of horsepower. So what kind of real HP gain do you think you're achieving from an Intake or Exhaust mod? Not 40 hp. poo poo, do you think the Honda engineers are stupid? If Honda could do better with simple I/E mods they would offer these mods on the OEM vehicles.

If you want more than 40HP, then go Turbo or N02, but then you're into high-maintenance. JRSC is good bolt-on power for the everyday driver. IMHO.

ekb18c

40whp isn't a lot!! Especially since it was $6,000 for 40whp! Not worth it at all IMHO. I could think of alot of things to do with that money and keep it NA and even better for the everyday driver.

Turbo and Nitrous Oxide AREN'T high maintenance, if you have it tuned properly and with all the right parts. Its amazing how LOW maintenance a good turbo system can be.

Hondata

The first type R we tuned, ( conservatively) made 201 HP at 4.5lb boost.


If your friend's type R is close to stock apart from the supercharger, contact us, as we need such a vehicle for R&D tuning.


Doug

austrian type-R

I had a gain of 45hp with only 5.5psi on my ITR. That was with Skunk2 cam gears, Cartech FMU, AEM FPR, Kami header, Thermal 3 inch, Apexi VAFC, RC 310cc injectors, JR BTC unit.

Then I added a Haltech e6k, 440cc injecotrs, Crower Valve springs + TI retainers and the ENDYN stepper pulley. I got rid of the Cartech FMU, 310cc, BTC and VAFC. Then my engine goes BOOOOM.

Now it is rebuilt time to 9:1 compression and eagle rods and TURBO ~1-1.2 Bar

csufweed

hey, for your info, Jackson Racing is a lil shop in Westminster, CA. This is where they do the R&D and all that crap. What you are going to is probably Moss Motors, not Jackson Racing.

Has your friend upgraded the fuel pump? If not, then more boost = fuel starvation. Anyways, a 40hp increase isnt bad. Jackson Racing only claims power to increase to 200whp. Most likely something is wrong in the tuning. Look up Jackson Racing in Westminster and give em a call.

austrian type-R

The 40% claim is with only 5.5psi but he boost 8psi. There is already a fuel pump included in the JRSC kit for the ITR

pornstarSR

ok yes i know they are in westminster if you read my previous thread it said santa barbara wher the sales department is.....

but yeah hes got actually 2 new punmps now

pornstarSR

ok you took that statement wrong, all im saying is that turbos are alittle more high maintnance just because the way they are.....if people are lazy and dont check fluids and sparkplugs they things can go bad, but if you do it right and not play with the happy boost controller then yeha you will be fine....

also yes i do have identifying marks on the car....

a Giant pornstarclothing.com sticker along both sides of the car

pornstarSR

ok ill get in touch with you

pornstarSR

see thats what you are supposed to do, bigger injectors.....etc....see jackson doesnt offer nor say to use them, but before i get my head bitten off about, "you should know at 8lbs on a ITR to get bigger injectors"....thats not the point of my thread, the point is that the claim was off, and if there was a way to get a more close claim to HP and some tuning advice then that would be greatly appriciated...

oh and im sorry ot hear the boom

and now im seeing your going turbo?