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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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Howdie Folks was wondering is and internal wastegate any good?
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 05:01 PM
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Was considering this turbo:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Godsp...Q5fAccessories
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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I don't know about that turbocharger, but internal wastegate in itself is fine if you don't have really high power goals.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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I don't know about that turbocharger, but internal wastegate in itself is fine if you don't have really high power goals.
By high power goals your talking over 350whp, if so then no 350whp max prolly
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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lol. higher power goals have nothing to do with whether a internal waste gate will work for you or not. just think of it like this, the lest boost you run the more work your wastegate has to do because its letting out more exhaust gas to keep the turbo at said boost. the higher the boost you run the less work your w.g. is doing. guys run 42lbs of boost with a evo 9 turbo with a single flapper internal w.g. its when you try to run a 35r on a 2.0l at 5 lbs your gonna have problems.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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the guys running 42lbs on evo turbos arent even using the WG at that point. Its all that pea shooter can produce.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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ya exactly. its just saying that the internal w.g. doesn't really matter when you crank the boost up alot.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by darkvader0
I don't know about that turbocharger, but internal wastegate in itself is fine if you don't have really high power goals.
Arighty so you think its smarter to use internal wg
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Arighty so you think its smarter to use internal wg
It's not smarter or dumber to use an internal or external WG. It just depends on how you want to setup your car.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech101.html

Go down to the wastegate section and read up. I run a Tial 44mm external WG that vents to the atmosphere (open loop). It's a costlier setup cause a Tial WG isn't cheap and you'd need a manifold that accommodates an external wastegate (which isn't hard to find). It's just how you prefer to setup your car. If you are in a state that is strict on emissions, running an open dump tube would be illegal, so an internal wastegate setup would be more emissions friendly or you could route the dump tube back into the exhaust further down (closed loop).
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by B18CivicEJ8
It's not smarter or dumber to use an internal or external WG. It just depends on how you want to setup your car.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech101.html

Go down to the wastegate section and read up. I run a Tial 44mm external WG that vents to the atmosphere (open loop). It's a costlier setup cause a Tial WG isn't cheap and you'd need a manifold that accommodates an external wastegate (which isn't hard to find). It's just how you prefer to setup your car. If you are in a state that is strict on emissions, running an open dump tube would be illegal, so an internal wastegate setup would be more emissions friendly or you could route the dump tube back into the exhaust further down (closed loop).
By smarter i mean,

Internal waste gate recirculates the exhaust as apose to the external wastegate that releases the exhaust into the air.

But by having an internal wastegate does it put extra pressure on the turbo?
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 12:02 AM
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How much boost are you trying to run
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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Not all external wastegates dump exhaust intothe air. You can still route the dumptube back into the exhaust to keep noise to a minimum.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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How much boost are you trying to run
What ever it takes me to hit 350 whp with a 9:1 compression motor
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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Not all external wastegates dump exhaust intothe air. You can still route the dumptube back into the exhaust to keep noise to a minimum.
This is true but i think im gonna run a stainless downpipe and to reweld that would suck!
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