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Old 02-26-2002, 12:06 PM
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Default Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results

This dyno was performed at Street Flight (www.streetflight.com) in Mesa, AZ. Here are the stats:

Temp: 66.56 Degrees
Max Power: 218.5 WHP @ 7850 RPM (I don't have a "soft rev" limiter and the shop didn't want to chance hitting the rev limiter and cutting the fuel)
Max Torque: 148.16 ft/lbs
Air Fuel: Bounced between 13.16 and 11.73

Check the dyno at http://photos.yahoo.com/qticconi the 95 GSR folder

It looks like if we had taken her to the limit, she would have easily topped 220 whp.

This is the setup:

"Baseline with Vortech blower/ B18C1 GSR, Timing at 16 degrees, Stock Cams, Stock ignition, Stock Exaust, Zex Plugs, Stock ECU, and no major tuning."

No where to go except up from here!!!!

Once Vortech produces the Aftercooler, I should easily see 300+ whp with proper tuning!!!!!


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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (95nBlown)

How much boost?
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timing at 16 degrees, no retard? WTF, you're gonna be buying some new pistons if you keep that up
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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (95nBlown)

i think if u tune the air/fuel and get a bigger exhaust u should see well over
or close to 220hp

300 seems a litte extreme but it could happen and u may be the first

good #'s anyways

now post some kills
Old 02-26-2002, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (VaporTrail)

I wish I could say I was impressed... You did not mention boost level... and you are probably going to want some more fuel. Those look like JRSC numbers.
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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (VaporTrail)

timing at 16 degrees, no retard? WTF, you're gonna be buying some new pistons if you keep that up
agreed.
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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (integracon)

Approximately 7lbs. Non aftercooled
Old 02-26-2002, 12:30 PM
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That is what happens when companies like Vortech do their homework. In talking to their tech support staff, and they are the ones who installed it also, I am completely safe running stock timing at this boost level and possibly at a higher boost level once the aftercooler is introduced. I have been running this way for 2 months now.
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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (dustin)

Actually, in the same folder at http://photos.yahoo.com/qticconi you can find a JRSC dyno with the same setup as my own (ie stock). You will see that the numbers are quite different. Even though the JRSC makes more torque through @ 6000 RPM, how often do you race and see much under 6000 RPM. The torque curve peaks at around 6000 RPM and starts to go down. The Vortech is a mid to high end performer...


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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (95nBlown)

So you are taking their word for it?

I would back the timing a few degrees... especially without the aftercooler or any real means of fuel management.

2 months is not proof that they are right, it is proof that you are lucky.

148ft-lb of torque peak @7psi is a "high end performer" ?? It is definately a good start and you have better numbers than a JRSC, but I would get fuel and timing in check first.

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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (dustin)

I'd rather have a JRSC.
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what about all those 272hp Vortech Civics that are running around!

oh wait...anyone seen one yet?
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what about all those 272hp Vortech Civics that are running around!

oh wait...anyone seen one yet?
Actually I have. I have even seen one run at Sac Raceway, making 270-280hp.
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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (95nBlown)

This dyno was performed at Street Flight (www.streetflight.com) in Mesa, AZ. Here are the stats:

Temp: 66.56 Degrees
Max Power: 218.5 WHP @ 7850 RPM (I don't have a "soft rev" limiter and the shop didn't want to chance hitting the rev limiter and cutting the fuel)
Max Torque: 148.16 ft/lbs
Air Fuel: Bounced between 13.16 and 11.73

Check the dyno at http://photos.yahoo.com/qticconi the 95 GSR folder

It looks like if we had taken her to the limit, she would have easily topped 220 whp.

This is the setup:

"Baseline with Vortech blower/ B18C1 GSR, Timing at 16 degrees, Stock Cams, Stock ignition, Stock Exaust, Zex Plugs, Stock ECU, and no major tuning."

damn, i saw close to 230 to the wheels on a jrsc w/8 lb pulley. i spent less money and saw a WAY better power/tq curve than any votech blower will ever show. sorry bro. try to sell it to some of your friends and get a turbo. lol.
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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (jinxproof99)

I third the idea of backing the timing down a bit, say to 14 degrees.

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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (Strng1dah)

Actually I have. I have even seen one run at Sac Raceway, making 270-280hp.
so when will a B18C be able to at least match that? if not, why not?
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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (95nBlown)

Even though the JRSC makes more torque through @ 6000 RPM, how often do you race and see much under 6000 RPM.
In autocrossing, all the time.
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Default Re: Integra GSR Vortech Dyno results (Tomakit)

A/F Ratio is below 12 from 2500 rpms and up. How is that possible with no fuel management?




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..........Even though the JRSC makes more torque through @ 6000 RPM, how often do you race and see much under 6000 RPM. The torque curve peaks at around 6000 RPM and starts to go down. The Vortech is a mid to high end performer...
actually, in a street race, you'll see way under 6000 off the start. on a jackson blower, you will read boost immediatly. with the vortech, you don't. tq is what pulls you off the line and gets you going. after 300 feet, if i'm ahead, you'd have to have ALOT more power than me just to catch up.
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what about all those 272hp Vortech Civics that are running around!
oh wait...anyone seen one yet?

I have, but they are aftercooled. That is also crank HP not to the Wheel. The 117 increase is correct though. They are sweet...


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As turboInteg95 would say, "thats hobo"

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damn, i saw close to 230 to the wheels on a jrsc w/8 lb pulley. i spent less money and saw a WAY better power/tq curve than any votech blower will ever show. sorry bro. try to sell it to some of your friends and get a turbo. lol.
I've seen a similar dyno. That car is no where near stock. Look at the post and compare apples to apples. You can't compare a car w/ X, Y, and Z mods to a car with only X (X=SC in this case). Give me the same mods (ie VAFC, lower VTEC engagement, cams, exhaust, high flow cat, Hondata or other stand alone, etc or what ever) and I'll show you better numbers. I'm just trying to give everyone a base line to start with. Compare stock kits to stock kits. Even at 8 lbs (which is an upgrade to the stock), the JRSC just bolted on to a stock vehicle, my top end is still better.


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so when will a B18C be able to at least match that? if not, why not?
The aftercooler for the GSR kit will be out in the 3rd or 4th quarter of this year. The inlet has to be redesigened because of the ABS on the GSR's. The GSR blower sits @ 3in to the right (towards the valve cover) than the SI blower. It is in R&D now. When it comes out, the numbers should be between 280 and 290, guessing.


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A/F Ratio is below 12 from 2500 rpms and up. How is that possible with no fuel management?
The kit comes with a fixed 8:1 Vortech FMU.


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hey you have a pic of me on your website...how sweet :D


which red integra is yours?

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or better yet, stop by http://www.hondasociety.com on the az forum. a lot of the guys from there autocross regularly too


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