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Old 03-31-2006, 12:32 AM
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yes finally after all this time i made my b16 rods fit my d16a6 block......was a bitch to make it happen but nothing a little elbow grease couldnt solve.....had to shave the sides of the big end of the rods...had to make bushing for the small end and notch the block....i hope that all the work was worth it ......anyone else running b16 rods in a d-block ?? id like to know how they have been doing....


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this is old news, i hope yer gonna be running the jdm 1jz pistons
Old 03-31-2006, 08:43 AM
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thats what i told him when he posted here
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Some people are just too stubborn to listen....
Old 03-31-2006, 09:00 AM
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i ran LS rods for a while, but sold that car.

good luck, make sure you get the right pistons, bc b16 rods are shorter.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Stance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes finally after all this time i made my b16 rods fit my d16a6 block......was a bitch to make it happen but nothing a little elbow grease couldnt solve.....had to shave the sides of the big end of the rods...had to make bushing for the small end and notch the block....i hope that all the work was worth it ......anyone else running b16 rods in a d-block ?? id like to know how they have been doing....


any info suggestions are welcome...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Congratulations, you could have saved 100 hours and $250 if you would have just bought a set of Eagles.
Old 03-31-2006, 11:26 AM
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when I did my LS rods they were cheaper than a set of eagles by about 75 bucks. I didn't have to knotch the block either.

all said and done I was wishing I would have bought eagles. that what I did this time!
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alright the rods were free and it took no where near 100 hrs to complete.....with that being said i will not be using 1jz pistons instead the a6 pistons will remain on the b16 rods....the difference in rod length is only ".104" so i had the skirts milled to compensate....
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LOL well take pics of the engine when it comes out again... ive seen engines after detonation happens... Some not to bad others have holes, and well just show me pics when you take this engine out again... lol
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i don't think its the skirt that presents the problem, it is the position of the wrist pin in realation to the top of the piston.

but, hey props for doing it yourself.
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im not sure what u meant about the position of the pin ??? the small end of the rod end has been rebushed if thats what u were talking about ?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Stance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not sure what u meant about the position of the pin ??? the small end of the rod end has been rebushed if thats what u were talking about ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

christ, if you don't know anything about piston compression heights you shouldnt be trying to stuff B16 rods in your D-series motor and then wonder why your motor knocks so bad later on.



When you use a rod a tenth of an inch shorter you should use a piston with the pin a tenth of an inch lower to compensate.
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ok like you said you should use one with a tenth of an inch lower to compensate..... key word being "should" and not "needed" meaning my motor will run which is all a care about .....
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well an engine with out oil runs too… but only for so long. I would hate to see you put all this work into building an engine to have it crap out on you.

The JZ jdm supra pistons have been used wityh b16 rods in a d16 as stated before, it souds like a simple solution.

Yes you will be able to put the pistons and rods in the motor will it run, I would say yes, how good will it run is another question.

good luck.
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thanks for the kind words turbo sol .....would u happen to know where i could find 1j pistons and what theyd roughly cost ?
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this was a quote from another post…

"B16A Rods matched with non-US Supra 1G-GTE pistons:
I calculated the following #'s for this combo
Piston volume = -7cc dish
Compression height = 33mm
Rod length = 134mm

Pro's of this setup = Strong B16 rods and forged Supra pistons

This is information has been gathered from Turbopanda ( username on https://honda-tech.com ). He sells this set-up for about $400.

The shorter B16 rods with a D16 stroke will result in a 1.49 rod/stroke ratio, down from the stock D16 1.52 R/S ratio.

The Toyota pistons' height make up for the length of the rod, that's why it’s still usable in a D series engine.

1G-GTE Supra pistons are 75mm. B16A rods are a lot stronger than D16 rods, and can handle boost way better. The rods are modified in order to accept the Toyota pistons. Installation is as simple as replacing your pistons and rods. The Crankshaft needs no modification, although the bottom of the short block will need to be notched a little so that there is enough clearance for the B16A rods"

I would pm turbo panda and see what he has to say about it.
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