hytech vs. Full race
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Re: hytech vs. Full race (CheezeFrog)
both kits are very good, however our kit (full-race) is a much easier to install kit.
I think the hytech would really shine on a more race/strip oriented car due to the liquid to air IC. If you use a heat transfer medium (ice water) between the liquid to the ambient air, the ice will quickly melt, and there will be losses in the system, making the air warmer than ambient, and warmer than an ambient air to air equivalent intercooler. That probably made no sense, but you get the idea: air to water dosnt work as well unless there is ice water in the reservoir
Also with their inbtercooler design, you are stuck with using one intake manifold. You cant swap to a JG or to a skunk2 then try a bored out GSR, etc.
For info on what needs to be done to the radiator, the modifications that need to be made to the radiator hoses to clear the manifold and such ask sefi8lo civic. Also i believe you need to fabricate your own water tank for the IC when using the hytech kit. Hopefully John can come online and answer these questions.
The only hard part on the full-race kit is notching the bumper out.
Of course if you are fully comfortable doing a fabrication intensive install, then it comes strictly down to performance, and i doubt there will be much difference.
ps tomakit: sweet avater
I think the hytech would really shine on a more race/strip oriented car due to the liquid to air IC. If you use a heat transfer medium (ice water) between the liquid to the ambient air, the ice will quickly melt, and there will be losses in the system, making the air warmer than ambient, and warmer than an ambient air to air equivalent intercooler. That probably made no sense, but you get the idea: air to water dosnt work as well unless there is ice water in the reservoir
Also with their inbtercooler design, you are stuck with using one intake manifold. You cant swap to a JG or to a skunk2 then try a bored out GSR, etc.
For info on what needs to be done to the radiator, the modifications that need to be made to the radiator hoses to clear the manifold and such ask sefi8lo civic. Also i believe you need to fabricate your own water tank for the IC when using the hytech kit. Hopefully John can come online and answer these questions.
The only hard part on the full-race kit is notching the bumper out.
Of course if you are fully comfortable doing a fabrication intensive install, then it comes strictly down to performance, and i doubt there will be much difference.
ps tomakit: sweet avater
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Re: hytech vs. Full race (jerseykid609)
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Yeah Hytech makes His mani but its not anything off the shelf .. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I didnt know Hytech had a shelf??
Yeah Hytech makes His mani but its not anything off the shelf .. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I didnt know Hytech had a shelf??
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Re: hytech vs. Full race (FFgeoff)
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because im stuck with it
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and its different, and its very humid in louisiana. My cooler setup, should be the jam, should cool EXTERMELY well.
because im stuck with it
.and its different, and its very humid in louisiana. My cooler setup, should be the jam, should cool EXTERMELY well.
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Re: hytech vs. Full race (Jordo)
i think if i had to do it again, id go with full race, just because its simpler.. doesnt need as many parts. and it works great.
Things to get hytech running:
Need some type of heat exchange or resisvouir setup for the intercooler.
Weld a neck or convert to an fitings for the raditor, so the upper hoses doesnt burn.
Things to get hytech running:
Need some type of heat exchange or resisvouir setup for the intercooler.
Weld a neck or convert to an fitings for the raditor, so the upper hoses doesnt burn.
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Re: hytech vs. Full race (FFgeoff)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FFgeoff »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">both kits are very good, however our kit (full-race) is a much easier to install kit.
I think the hytech would really shine on a more race/strip oriented car due to the liquid to air IC. If you use a heat transfer medium (ice water) between the liquid to the ambient air, the ice will quickly melt, and there will be losses in the system, making the air warmer than ambient, and warmer than an ambient air to air equivalent intercooler. That probably made no sense, but you get the idea: air to water dosnt work as well unless there is ice water in the reservoir
Also with their inbtercooler design, you are stuck with using one intake manifold. You cant swap to a JG or to a skunk2 then try a bored out GSR, etc.
For info on what needs to be done to the radiator, the modifications that need to be made to the radiator hoses to clear the manifold and such ask sefi8lo civic. Also i believe you need to fabricate your own water tank for the IC when using the hytech kit. Hopefully John can come online and answer these questions.
The only hard part on the full-race kit is notching the bumper out.
Of course if you are fully comfortable doing a fabrication intensive install, then it comes strictly down to performance, and i doubt there will be much difference.
ps tomakit: sweet avater
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with the hy-tech there is an amazing amount of fabrication involved, so be prepared to be at the mech-shop a lot. both are amazing, just depends what your going after, simplicty or something very different.
I think the hytech would really shine on a more race/strip oriented car due to the liquid to air IC. If you use a heat transfer medium (ice water) between the liquid to the ambient air, the ice will quickly melt, and there will be losses in the system, making the air warmer than ambient, and warmer than an ambient air to air equivalent intercooler. That probably made no sense, but you get the idea: air to water dosnt work as well unless there is ice water in the reservoir
Also with their inbtercooler design, you are stuck with using one intake manifold. You cant swap to a JG or to a skunk2 then try a bored out GSR, etc.
For info on what needs to be done to the radiator, the modifications that need to be made to the radiator hoses to clear the manifold and such ask sefi8lo civic. Also i believe you need to fabricate your own water tank for the IC when using the hytech kit. Hopefully John can come online and answer these questions.
The only hard part on the full-race kit is notching the bumper out.
Of course if you are fully comfortable doing a fabrication intensive install, then it comes strictly down to performance, and i doubt there will be much difference.
ps tomakit: sweet avater
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with the hy-tech there is an amazing amount of fabrication involved, so be prepared to be at the mech-shop a lot. both are amazing, just depends what your going after, simplicty or something very different.
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Re: (Jordo)
From what I've read/heard (never tested) the laminova intercooler setup that comes with HyTech kits is AS efficient as an air-to-air intercooler with just a heat-exchanger. Supposedly 88% effiecient.
Imagine with ICE!
I guess all that means is that if you were wary of running the hytech kit cus of the air-to-air, dont worry, it will still be as efficient.
Personally, I'd go with full-race
But goddamn that hytech is sexy.
The install would be the same, except very minor fabrication for the hytech (running lines and mounting heat exchanger), power would probably be similar, and you get to keep a/c AND run a full radiator..
An EG with Teg radiator, and teg a/c w/ hyech kit would be the ****!
Imagine with ICE!
I guess all that means is that if you were wary of running the hytech kit cus of the air-to-air, dont worry, it will still be as efficient.
Personally, I'd go with full-race
But goddamn that hytech is sexy.
The install would be the same, except very minor fabrication for the hytech (running lines and mounting heat exchanger), power would probably be similar, and you get to keep a/c AND run a full radiator..
An EG with Teg radiator, and teg a/c w/ hyech kit would be the ****!
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Re: (MaxBoost)
I would definitely go with the Full-Race over the Hytech! Its a very simple setup, yet VERY effective. A local guy made 608 WHP (still not all the way tuned) with the Full-Race setup this week. Put that extra cash into other areas...suspension, building the motor, tranny, tuning, whatever....
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Re: (0x64)
Like most people are saying it's all about the AC really. Both are outstanding setup's. I chose the Full-Race because it will give me the best performance from a manifold that does not use AC. If I ever choose to get my AC setup again, I will run a lovefab during the summer heat. Not a lot of people can do this, but its nice to be able to recharge my AC for free. It's hard to beat the quality and service Geoff and his staff provide.
Modified by BodyKits NW at 2:44 PM 7/29/2003
Modified by BodyKits NW at 2:44 PM 7/29/2003
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Re: (rpm9100)
Dont be such a dick. Honda tech is to share information, not bash other people.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rpm9100 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes you CAN use a front mount.
dumbasses...
http://theoldone.com/forum/top...13525</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rpm9100 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes you CAN use a front mount.
dumbasses...
http://theoldone.com/forum/top...13525</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (prelude beast)
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I would say yes since everything is made per order as far as I know.
I would say yes since everything is made per order as far as I know.