young geezer

well i have a stock gsr with jus a stage 4 CC. and1000cc injectors. i want to boost around 10-12 and little bit of nos. i a gonna tune it with s300 hondata. the tuner is really good. i have a top mount and a t3 60-1 turbo and it doesnt really spool untill it reaches aroun 5k rpm or atleast when i had my type r motor, it didnt spool until 5k rmp. so i want to shot nos to spool faster and maybe once in a while shot nos all the way up to higher rpm. how much nos should i push and how safe is this. thanks.

rmcdaniels

Post that question on http://www.highaltitudeimports.com . There are some good tuners like Servion and Honda Ghandi right in your area that should be able to help you with your setup.

young geezer

yea i know of that side. its cool and there are few who knows a lot about hondas but lot of other people jus talk too much **** on their. so i ask the technical question on here and go there for just entertainment.

MooreBoost

Try a 30 shot with a Hobbs switch.

young geezer

yea i was thinking about something around that range. i just wasnt sure how much the stock motor can handle. my goal is above 350 whp and below 400 whp. i have 3 inch all the way down, 1000 cc, top mount with garret t3 60-1. so i thik its possible with that. may be 40 shot? and 12 pis?

MooreBoost

I wouldn't spray once the turbo is spooled.

The torque of a 40 shot plus the turbo spooling may be too much for a stock bottom end.

So use the Hobb switch to turn it off at a pretty low boost level.

White Smoke

Are you talking about a wet kit or a dry kit? Honestly I am going to tell you what most others will, skip out on the nos and run a touch more boost. 12psi is already pushing the limit on a stock GSR so adding N20 is pretty stupid IMO. Not hating, just telling ya how it is.

MooreBoost

Try reading his post.

He wants to spool the turbo faster.

Schister66

The best method of obtaining faster spool is by ditching the 60-1 and getting something smaller that more closely fits your needs...

Zeusfire69

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I agree, If you are only going to boost 10-12 psi, I say get a little smaller turbo. it will be safer for your motor too. If you want to make big power, you are going to have to build the motor. In my opion, a 60-1 is just overkill for a stock bottom end. You could make just as much with a t3t4E 57 trim and get quicker spool. If you used a .63 hot side...or even a .48 stge 2...It really does matter what your overall goal is for HP

Schister66

IMO, get the turbo i have listed in my setup (in my sig)

White Smoke

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MooreBoost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try reading his post.

He wants to spool the turbo faster.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I can't believe I forget to read the post
You got me
Since he only wants it to spool the turbo it must be safe

Joseph Davis

A small shot is fine to spool, shut it off after the boost comes up.

Given your setup a cheap set of Eagles/Wisecos will allow you to apply everything that 60-1 has to offer, and you save in the long run by not having to get retuned later. Hint hint.

young geezer

the nitrous is wet kit and its zex. i ve decide to go with 50 shot until i have reached 5k rpm. then get off the switch. i would of gotten a smaller turbo but 60-1 only cost me $100 and couldnt pass that deal. my goal is 350whp and 400 wit nos.

White Smoke

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by young geezer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my goal is 350whp and 400 wit nos.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You say you are only going to use the n20 to spool the turbo yet you HP goal is higher with it. That makes no sense AT ALL. 350hp is already pushing a stock motor REALLY far. You wanted to know if its safe and I am telling you IT IS NOT.

Joseph Davis

What this guys says.

Nitrous burns really really hot and will get you into a bad place before straight boost will. Welcome to oxidizers, and chemical reactions which lower effective octane.

If you want to spray a fifty hot to spool the turbo and have the nitrous cut off at 5 psi that's great. Go for it. It works really sweet. Just don't do any of this spray until 5000 rpm **** that will have you spraying while fully spooled and at torque peak where you are most prone to detonation. There's a word for doing that on a stock bottom end, it's called stupid.

Maybe not stupid if you are pioneering something, but you are not; it's a freaking Honduh B-series. You aren't pioneering anything, what you are trying has been done before and it's a bad idea. If you try to spray + boost and go to the limit of what a stock engin can handle on boost alone you will lose your engine. If you try to boost to 400 whp - which is safer than spraying + boost - you will lose your engine.

But, hey, what do I know?