xXx Justin xXx

just curious what i should be expecting... (modified with few changes..)

d16z6 (complete rebuild and clean on bottom end..only 12k on it)
stock internals. greddy turbo kit. running 10psi. p28 w/ hondata (s100 w/ boost)
dsm side mount with a custom ram air to the hole in my front bumper..
2 1/2" downpipe 3" exhaust (w/ test pipe)
dsm 450's.
ACT extreme PP w/ street disk
92-00 EX 5 spd tranny. all tuned on dyno.... any guesses?

think i'll be able to hit 220whp and 180 trq with the 2 1/2" piped exhaust and no cat even though inner diameter is a little less? keep in mind the hondata and well tuned.


[Modified by SOHC Beast, 12:57 AM 3/21/2003]


[Modified by SOHC Beast, 5:22 PM 3/25/2003]

ridnmyhonda

this is just a guess...250 or maybe a little more...

Tinker219

00TurboEX

i would say more like 225ish at 10psi. you could probably run higher boost since you have the greddy turbo and the hondata, like 12 or so, i would think anyways. 3" exhaust would probably help too, but its loud.

xXx Justin xXx

yea actually i just bought a 2 1/2" apex n1. just got it today... and it came with a test pipe soo..... i made a post a little while back and people in here said that it wouldn't be safe to run more than 8-10psi w/ stock internals... bit you all think i'll be able to hit # that high... i was just hoping for like 200whp. but thats cool... also do you think i will need a different fuel pump? i have a 94 cx hatch. could i get away with just running thicker wires for the stock fuel pump?

and if i do change the fuel pump, i would like to get a better in-tank one... dont want to deal with running an in-line one or something? not too educated on the fuel pump category... thanks for the fast replies

00TurboEX

well, you do have a freshly rebuilt engine, i wouldnt run 12psi daily or anything, but with hondata you would have the ability to run higher boost levels. i have the AEM EMS, and just to be on the safe side, i bought a walboro 255lph intank fuel pump. i wasnt sure if it was needed, but i figured it wouldnt hurt at all, especially when i start getting into higher boost. no need for an inline pump unless you are running an FMU or making 5million whp. just go with a nice intank pump and get it tuned properly and you should be able to make probably around 215-225whp at 10psi.

xXx Justin xXx

how much do in tank pumps cost? and i don't think i will ever go over 10. whenever i get it tuned, i'll have it tuned at about 9 or 10.. and that is where it will always be.. granted i won't be spooling constantly. most time i'll shift at 3k. and what kind of dsm injectors do i need. a guy on here said he has some that he will sell me for 75 shipped? said they are blue top... any details i should know or ask before buying injectors.... i'm clueless when it comes to info on that stuff. thanks

Drew Peacock

<----- Laughs at people saying 250whp

About 220whp with a decent exhaust closer to 200 with what you have!

Pengo

i think maybe the pple who said 250 mean bhp not whp? anyway, any pics of the dp? where did you have it done? i'm thinkin of gettin a 2.5 for my greddy kit and wanna see if you did the whole thing or just the bottom part. do you feel it was worth the gain?

xXx Justin xXx

its not done yet... and i am still in the middle of tring to put everything together. i am thinking about maybe getting a 3" down pipe and the 02 housing for it.. that might help a little with only running the 2 1/2" exhaust. and even 200whp is cool. i was only origonally hoping for 180-210whp. .... whenever i get it all done i'll let you all know what it put down....

and if i did do the 2 1/2" DP thing,i was just going to bottleneck it. cut it right under the 02 sensor and have it sized up... but i figure a full 3" would do better. not sure yet. depends on what prices i come across...


[Modified by SOHC Beast, 11:58 PM 3/14/2003]

Nissmaxx

I am really tired of telling people about the abilities of the SOHC man! Look at FMAX site the car was bone stock at 12 13 lbs of boost and had a lower compression gasket no other mods except a 3 inch exhaust. He was making 235-240 to the wheel! and 200 lbs of torque. Add 110 octane at 15lbs a tad more ignition and whamo 250 lb tq and 270-290 hp man. Dont be fooled by those crap talkers there BS in the knowledge. I warn you though its going to cost a pretty penny to do this. Remember you need lower compression until you build the motor and get a standalone unit. (Hondadata or AEMS\

xXx Justin xXx

ok check it.... i bought this apex n1 from a guy that had it on a 4 door teg. somebody told me they had the same setup on their hatch and all. well the crap doesn't fit right. way too long from the axel back. it is 2 1/2" outer diameter... and only 2 1/4" inner diameter. now i can easily make my own axel back and use the n1 muffler, make it work, no big deal.

or i can be a nice b/f to my girl and put it on her 4 door civic ex. (fits up perfect to her car. i know the 2 1/4" inner diameter is going to hold me back a lot @ 10psi. should i just do my cheap way out for the 2 1/2" DP, then have my own 3" DP back exhaust made... slap in a resonator, and a nice muffler? what would you do?

turbod16y8

nissman u dont know what youre talking about man. if u been here long enough couple of ppl on here boost 10-12 psi and making well over 240.

T3

230ish...Greddy isnt a great kit..Hondata will save ur d16.


[Modified by T3, 6:47 PM 3/14/2003]

Pengo

ok so sizewise the greddy isn't the greatest compared to some of the more pricey setups out there, but the fitment is perfect. for a beginner setup you couldnt ask for more.

BoostedSi

xXx Justin xXx

ok, so anybody care to give an opinion on what i should do on my delema from 5 posts up? scroll up and read..... should i just try and sell it. i paid $350 and it has a test pipe welded on it. i just don't want to lose money tring to ship it back out.

xXx Justin xXx

ok, well i am running the 15g that comes with the sohc kit....i am wondering if it going to die off real early at high rpm if i am running 10psi. i know at 5psi it died at like 5k rpms. i just want something to keep pulling until 6500-7k. but i am a comfort guy, i will be keeping the ac on my car... too damn hott here in the summers. so i don't know if i could get a 16g turbo to bolt up to my manifold and stuff, and if i would have to change 02 housings.... clear the ac.. anybody know this stuff?

darkracer

on the 5g hatches you can keep the ac with a kit that you can buy off of H-T. i'm going to run almost the same setup as you on my 91 hatch.( i can 't keep ac thought) oh well. But just buy a custom manifold for a T3/4, T3/4 turbo, 3"dp, DSM 450cc, VAFC or Hondata. starion, and you will be able to do all the things you wanted to do. if you do a little research, you will know that this setup is proven itself on 4g hatches, as daily drivers, running 10psi, even more so on 5g hatches. just my 2 cents. peace.

turbochic

hey nissman cool down, i dont see anyone saying that it cant be done........

xXx Justin xXx

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94dxt

my friend has a similar setup as mine(sig) except minus porting, but has stand alone, t3/4, running 14psi he made 250whp 205wtq so my guess for you is 215whp


[Modified by 94dxt, 5:17 PM 3/20/2003]

Casey

iTrader: (5)

get a real turbo justin, that t25 is going to hold u back. Other than that, you will make mad hawspowa y0! btw i think youre going to buy kteller8s 3" arent ya

xXx Justin xXx

yea man.... 3" polished w/ 3" es oval muffler.... should be pimp ish. and i am in a delema with the turbo... don't want to have to change the manifold and 02 housing and ****... and damn sure will not give up my a/c. thats why i am hesitant on getting rid of the 15g.. it clears my ac and everything. i am on a budget... but want it to pull to the redline... not die at damn 5k rpms like it did in my crix @ 5psi. maybe the 10psi will help.

Casey

iTrader: (5)

i think youll be ok with more boost and a full 3" exaust, but then again what do i know. Youll get it figured out, and im going with you when you dyno