How hot is to hot for engine?
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Re: How hot is to hot for engine?
why not?? its were my tuner left it. I rarely am over 185. and if im over 185 and below 40mph i could care less if the fan is on. Most of the time i am driving over 40mph so its not going to turn on anyways
but i would tend to agree i 190-200 is fine
but i would tend to agree i 190-200 is fine
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Re: How hot is to hot for engine?
OEM thermostat's are 185 F..... Drop youre radiator fan settings to 185. Usually my car runs at 180-182 all the time...Even when boosting hard, it will climb in traffic or really slow speeds.
Why have it activate at 208? or even 200. Set it to 185-190 so that it kicks on sooner and starts to get it cooling before it gets to hot. Set the FAn speed to 35mph as after that speed it actually reduces the ability to cool as the wind will do a better job cooling then the fan could at that speed....around 35-40mph
Now if its rising when youre at highway speeds to over 185-190 then you have other problems with the cooling system. I am not a fan of pusher fans...pulling fans do a much better job. But i do realize some set-ups have room concerns.
Im sure the OEM radiator isnt helping you out any...i have a thin fan that came with my peakboost kit, and also a koyo 52mm half size with greddy raditor cap (which increases pressure within the cooling system)
Why have it activate at 208? or even 200. Set it to 185-190 so that it kicks on sooner and starts to get it cooling before it gets to hot. Set the FAn speed to 35mph as after that speed it actually reduces the ability to cool as the wind will do a better job cooling then the fan could at that speed....around 35-40mph
Now if its rising when youre at highway speeds to over 185-190 then you have other problems with the cooling system. I am not a fan of pusher fans...pulling fans do a much better job. But i do realize some set-ups have room concerns.
Im sure the OEM radiator isnt helping you out any...i have a thin fan that came with my peakboost kit, and also a koyo 52mm half size with greddy raditor cap (which increases pressure within the cooling system)
I do have the fan as a puller. The pic up above showing a pusher is only for the a/c condenser as the turbo is directly on the other side.
Gotcha on the relay, I have plenty laying around and will do that.
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Re: How hot is to hot for engine?
yea horrible idea when you can change it with the s300....As far as airflow alot has to do with bumper used, also intercooler interferring ect? in those cases it could be higher then normal to equal the same flow rates....i keep mine at 185 i really dont mind if its turning on earlier. Guess its all preference, but i dont see any cons with it coming on earlier.
ahh i missed that on the pusher fan...that makes sense.
I have a slim fan....i dont think it costs too much for those....and it will help with youre spacing issues.....my intake is facing power steering tho
i think if youre having issues in city driving it would be more benefical with it coming on earlier then once its already too hot
ahh i missed that on the pusher fan...that makes sense.
I have a slim fan....i dont think it costs too much for those....and it will help with youre spacing issues.....my intake is facing power steering tho
i think if youre having issues in city driving it would be more benefical with it coming on earlier then once its already too hot
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Re: How hot is to hot for engine?
yea horrible idea when you can change it with the s300....As far as airflow alot has to do with bumper used, also intercooler interferring ect? in those cases it could be higher then normal to equal the same flow rates....i keep mine at 185 i really dont mind if its turning on earlier. Guess its all preference, but i dont see any cons with it coming on earlier.
ahh i missed that on the pusher fan...that makes sense.
I have a slim fan....i dont think it costs too much for those....and it will help with youre spacing issues.....my intake is facing power steering tho
i think if youre having issues in city driving it would be more benefical with it coming on earlier then once its already too hot
ahh i missed that on the pusher fan...that makes sense.
I have a slim fan....i dont think it costs too much for those....and it will help with youre spacing issues.....my intake is facing power steering tho
i think if youre having issues in city driving it would be more benefical with it coming on earlier then once its already too hot
Yup i have mine turn on around 185 also id have to open my bin up and check but i dont ever log over 195 deg. Even when its 90+ outside. I also have a ebay Dualcore Rad its a BEAST lol even tho my oem worked fine.
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Re: How hot is to hot for engine?
ebay slim fans are trash
My ECTS are actually cooler with my alum rad and stock fan.. until i can find the extra funds to get a spal fan the stock one does the trick to me, and i live in louisiana.. it gets fairly hotter then anywhere else and i stay a cool 188 in traffic..
My ECTS are actually cooler with my alum rad and stock fan.. until i can find the extra funds to get a spal fan the stock one does the trick to me, and i live in louisiana.. it gets fairly hotter then anywhere else and i stay a cool 188 in traffic..
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Re: How hot is to hot for engine?
ebay slim fans are trash
My ECTS are actually cooler with my alum rad and stock fan.. until i can find the extra funds to get a spal fan the stock one does the trick to me, and i live in louisiana.. it gets fairly hotter then anywhere else and i stay a cool 188 in traffic..
My ECTS are actually cooler with my alum rad and stock fan.. until i can find the extra funds to get a spal fan the stock one does the trick to me, and i live in louisiana.. it gets fairly hotter then anywhere else and i stay a cool 188 in traffic..
I may have to exchange the fan for the 0507 fan which is 2.5" thick. Only rated at 1275 CFM instead of 1710 but also draws half the current.
http://www.the-fan-man.com/shop/size....html?cPath=33
Tried to show my clearance... or lack there of.
In this first pic you can also see why I had to pusher on the a/c fan.
The existing fan is pressing on the intake tube you see here and it's only a 2.5" fan.
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Re: How hot is to hot for engine?
If it were a dedicated track car I'd consider it. On the street never. I know some guys do, to each their own. I've been building engines and tearing them down long enough to know I'll personally never do it on a street car.
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I feel the reason the stock fans do well is there shrouded. I think the slim fans would do much better if you got a shorud for the radiator. I would say the stock fan def does a better job then a slim fan just bolted to the center section of radiator then pulling air thru the entire surface like on a shrouded set-up.
T1 sells a FAn and shroud kit. Believe its a spal fan as well. This would be youre best bet (although with youre space the shroud may not fit)
On a side note, have you considered turning the turbo to face the other direction? Then you wouldnt have hot air blowing near the intake. NOt sure if youre manifold wouldnt allow a good fit. might be worth considering tho. Then just get a 5" K&N offset filter on the turbo inlet. OR you could even get a 90 degree silcoln coupler and make a cold air intake off the inlet. (near windshield fluid res.)
T1 sells a FAn and shroud kit. Believe its a spal fan as well. This would be youre best bet (although with youre space the shroud may not fit)
On a side note, have you considered turning the turbo to face the other direction? Then you wouldnt have hot air blowing near the intake. NOt sure if youre manifold wouldnt allow a good fit. might be worth considering tho. Then just get a 5" K&N offset filter on the turbo inlet. OR you could even get a 90 degree silcoln coupler and make a cold air intake off the inlet. (near windshield fluid res.)
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Re: How hot is to hot for engine?
I completely agree with you on this. Just throwing it out there. I think you could figure out a way to fit it. I can post pics of mine installed if you would like to see the space I have. I had to deal with my battery, and 3" downpipe.
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Re: How hot is to hot for engine?
Yeap that answers that. haha.
Well hopefully this solves his issue, cause if it doesnt and he ends up getting a bigger radiator then he is really going to have space issues with a 52mm core
Well hopefully this solves his issue, cause if it doesnt and he ends up getting a bigger radiator then he is really going to have space issues with a 52mm core