How can you tell the engine is dentonating/knocking?

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 10:39 PM
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Default How can you tell the engine is dentonating/knocking?

when I race I could only hear the wastegate screaming, how can I tell if the engine is dentonating? sometimes when I race on the highway I downshift to 4th and floor it till redline then continue boost in 5th for a few seconds, how bad is it?

97 lude boosting at 7 psi, fuel setup is Vortech 12:1 FMU, stock injectors, msd inline fuel pump, a/f ratio is all the way to rich under full boost.

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 01:01 AM
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Default Re: How can you tell the engine is dentonating/knocking? (mike2016)

well, if you can't hear it, then the only way of telling without expensive data loggers is sometimes the exhaust will puff out a puff of smoke when detonating. Other ways of telling are to check your plugs for little specs of metal, which is a sign of detonation. A J&S knock monitor might not be a bad investment.


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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 06:15 AM
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Default Re: How can you tell the engine is dentonating/knocking? (VaporTrail)

Once detonation occured, will the engine blow right away? Is it bad hit the rev limiter under full boost? cuz in 1st gear it pulls tooo hard and i couldn't shift fast enough...
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 06:59 AM
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Default Re: How can you tell the engine is dentonating/knocking? (mike2016)

It is pretty bad if you hit the stock rev limiter. The factory rev limiter on Hondas, I believe, is a fuel cut style. So when at WOT and you're making full boost, and it cuts fuel, basically you're running lean. If you have an A/F gauge, notice how it'll jump lean to rich to lean, and back and forth. Try not to hit the rev limiter. What I have setup is using a soft rev limiter on the ignition box. Get like an MSD 6AL or a Crane HI-6R, I have a crane and I set the rev on it 100 rpm lower than factory. That way I won't ever hit the stock limiter, and the ignition box will limit rev by cutting the spark to certain cylinders. It's better to cut spark than fuel.
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 07:30 AM
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Default Re: How can you tell the engine is dentonating/knocking? (TurboLudeSi)

That makes sense, thanks a lot TurboLudeSi. Well I already have a MSD 6A and I don't want to spend another 200 bucks on a new 6AL just for the rev limiter, I think I will just set my shift light at 7000 so I maybe able to shift fast enough before it hits the redline. It's all good if I get used to it, now I just can't response so fast that the rpm jumps to redline like a rocket in 1st gear....
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 08:10 AM
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Default Re: How can you tell the engine is dentonating/knocking? (mike2016)

it takes more then once to blow up an engine. My last motor was running a little lean for about 5 months before it finally melted. it kind of also depends on how lean it is. hitting the limiter once is no big deal I wouldnt even worry about it but dont make it a habit.
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 02:25 PM
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Default Re: How can you tell the engine is dentonating/knocking? (TurboInteg95)

If you knew your car was running lean, why didn't you richen it up? How did you know you were running it lean? What kind of A/F measuring device did you use? Also, can anyone out there give me a descriptive sound of how an engine sounds when it knocks or detonates?
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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 02:37 PM
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Default Re: How can you tell the engine is dentonating/knocking? (TurboLudeSi)

a sound when engine is blowing up will be great.
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