Hondata or Uberdata?
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Re: (legendboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by legendboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't waste your money with hondata, seriously. I've used both and uberdata kicks ***. </TD></TR></TABLE>
his problem is that his tuner may not be able to tune uberdata. i think you guys are missing the point of this thread. obviously, if you are going to tune it yourself, uberdata is the cheapest. and if you're going to have a tuner do it, uberdata is also cheapest assuming the tuner can tune uberdata
it all depends on the person. if you aren't very skilled with soldering/learning something that is in development and has quirks here and there, then you are better off spending money on a tuner. however, if you have the ability to research and learn just about anything, and enjoy doing so while saving money, then uberdata would be your best bet.
his problem is that his tuner may not be able to tune uberdata. i think you guys are missing the point of this thread. obviously, if you are going to tune it yourself, uberdata is the cheapest. and if you're going to have a tuner do it, uberdata is also cheapest assuming the tuner can tune uberdata
it all depends on the person. if you aren't very skilled with soldering/learning something that is in development and has quirks here and there, then you are better off spending money on a tuner. however, if you have the ability to research and learn just about anything, and enjoy doing so while saving money, then uberdata would be your best bet.
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Re: (keebler65)
thanks for your oppinions guys. Im going to go with Uberdata ive been spending allot of my time on hear, Keeblers write up, and the Uberdata forum learnig as much as I can! I just can't justify paying Hondata to do somthing that I can pretty much do my self. Anyway what wideband o2 sensor would you guys recomend. I like the plx m300 and I was looking into the Inovative LM-1 alittle too. Any suggestions would be great thanks!
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Re: (legendboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by legendboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't waste your money with hondata, seriously. I've used both and uberdata kicks ***. </TD></TR></TABLE>
werd. i've had both as well. i dont understand why ppl think uberdata=street tune and hondata=dyno tune. i got both of them tuned on the dyno. but i guess im lucky that my tuner knows both systems.
werd. i've had both as well. i dont understand why ppl think uberdata=street tune and hondata=dyno tune. i got both of them tuned on the dyno. but i guess im lucky that my tuner knows both systems.
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Re: (gpomp)
hondata=uberdata and that's the bottom line. If you aren't jucin there just isn't a point to hondata. They are exactly the same. Uberdata gave me a 3-step and everything else i needed. I tuned it myslef and I have no complaints. 20k miles. Counting. Uberdata is absolutely the cooolest thing that happened to honda's in a few years. Live and learn.
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (egturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uberdata sucks.. tried uberdata on two motor/turbo setups never worked out for me.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Uberdata sucks? probably because the user sucks... its worked out for everyone i know.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blkteg97 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyway what wideband o2 sensor would you guys recomend. I like the plx m300 and I was looking into the Inovative LM-1 alittle too. Any suggestions would be great thanks! </TD></TR></TABLE>
i have the plx300 and it does the job just fine. The only think i don't like about the innovative is the display.
Uberdata sucks? probably because the user sucks... its worked out for everyone i know.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blkteg97 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyway what wideband o2 sensor would you guys recomend. I like the plx m300 and I was looking into the Inovative LM-1 alittle too. Any suggestions would be great thanks! </TD></TR></TABLE>
i have the plx300 and it does the job just fine. The only think i don't like about the innovative is the display.
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (egturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uberdata sucks.. tried uberdata on two motor/turbo setups never worked out for me.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe you didnt know what you were doing? People are always scared about messing up their cars with Uberdata. But if you think about how many people run off the hack and FMU, then you can see that even a very poorly tuned Uberdata map will be way better off then either of these two methods. My tunes at first were very rough, but after tuning my car over and over, each time the tune became more refined, smoother driving and made more power, to the point now that I understand whats going on, know what to do, and can consistently tune cars to their potential.
Maybe you didnt know what you were doing? People are always scared about messing up their cars with Uberdata. But if you think about how many people run off the hack and FMU, then you can see that even a very poorly tuned Uberdata map will be way better off then either of these two methods. My tunes at first were very rough, but after tuning my car over and over, each time the tune became more refined, smoother driving and made more power, to the point now that I understand whats going on, know what to do, and can consistently tune cars to their potential.
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (egturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uberdata sucks.. tried uberdata on two motor/turbo setups never worked out for me.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You must not know how to tune, or had someone try to tune who didnt have a clue either. If you are looking to street tune and are either a decent tuner or know someone who is familiar with the software, Uberdata is money. If you cant tune or dont know anyone who can stick with Hondata and go to a dyno to get it tuned.
You must not know how to tune, or had someone try to tune who didnt have a clue either. If you are looking to street tune and are either a decent tuner or know someone who is familiar with the software, Uberdata is money. If you cant tune or dont know anyone who can stick with Hondata and go to a dyno to get it tuned.
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (SOHC_MShue)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what are you talking about? Where do you drive your car....on the streets or on a dyno? Street tuning your a/f with a wideband is more acurate than a dyno because it is in real street conditions..not just some fan blowing air on the front of your car. The only reason to tune fuel on a dyno rather than on the street imo is if you have an extremely high hp car that is unsafe to do redline pulls on the street. </TD></TR></TABLE>
werd, a dyno is nice if you want a number also to run around and tell everyone...but I also drive my car on the street so tuning would be better done for me on the street, you know so its the same condition that the car will be driven in...
even if you wanted to use a dyno, I think it would make more sense to tune on the street first then get on the dyno and fine tune (for less time on the dyno...com'on only makes sense)
what are you talking about? Where do you drive your car....on the streets or on a dyno? Street tuning your a/f with a wideband is more acurate than a dyno because it is in real street conditions..not just some fan blowing air on the front of your car. The only reason to tune fuel on a dyno rather than on the street imo is if you have an extremely high hp car that is unsafe to do redline pulls on the street. </TD></TR></TABLE>
werd, a dyno is nice if you want a number also to run around and tell everyone...but I also drive my car on the street so tuning would be better done for me on the street, you know so its the same condition that the car will be driven in...
even if you wanted to use a dyno, I think it would make more sense to tune on the street first then get on the dyno and fine tune (for less time on the dyno...com'on only makes sense)
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (O3DigitalBath)
Im going to have to do all my tuning on the street unless some one will let me tune it my self on there dyno, becaue no one around here knows how to tune Uberdata.
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (b18prl)
These threads keep getting worse and worse. Congratulations on deciding to go with uberdata, you have many experiences ahead of you that are well worth the time and aggrivation. I personally love messing around with **** that's almost all there but not quite, hey and apparently uberdata is about to get better with its next update....hahaha right!! 
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (egturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uberdata sucks.. tried uberdata on two motor/turbo setups never worked out for me.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (pkoury)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pkoury »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but not quite, hey and apparently uberdata is about to get better with its next update....hahaha right!! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Have you ever even used uberdata? I own two turbo hondas that me and my gf daily drive and have tuned several locally with zero problems. My coupe has been running uberdata since the first free release (version 1.2 I think) over a year ago with no complaints. All the haters talk about these problems and quirks, what are they? As long as you are not using any of the experimental versions it works fine. My car is running a 3 bar map with 15-17psi daily and my buddys car is running the same daily and they both drive like stock!
Do you guys think hondata is perfect???? If I remember right Hondata still calculates the scalars wrong and has known glitches uberdata solved ages ago.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Have you ever even used uberdata? I own two turbo hondas that me and my gf daily drive and have tuned several locally with zero problems. My coupe has been running uberdata since the first free release (version 1.2 I think) over a year ago with no complaints. All the haters talk about these problems and quirks, what are they? As long as you are not using any of the experimental versions it works fine. My car is running a 3 bar map with 15-17psi daily and my buddys car is running the same daily and they both drive like stock!
Do you guys think hondata is perfect???? If I remember right Hondata still calculates the scalars wrong and has known glitches uberdata solved ages ago.
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (egturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uberdata sucks.. tried uberdata on two motor/turbo setups never worked out for me.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
What system did you end up prefering over uberdata and why? Did you do all of the tuning? I have played with a handfull of different standalones/fuel management systems and although a lot of the higher end ones do some bad *** stuff its hard to justify on a street car when compared to uberdata, at least when you understand each system enough to actually be qualified to judge and compare the systems.
What system did you end up prefering over uberdata and why? Did you do all of the tuning? I have played with a handfull of different standalones/fuel management systems and although a lot of the higher end ones do some bad *** stuff its hard to justify on a street car when compared to uberdata, at least when you understand each system enough to actually be qualified to judge and compare the systems.
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Bleh, this thread is the same as the rest. People are starting to choose uberdata over hondata daily... who cares what other people choose?
I chose uberdata and it runs my car very well. If you wanna pay more and get the same results with hondata, go ahead. It's not my money, I don't care how you waste it.
I chose uberdata and it runs my car very well. If you wanna pay more and get the same results with hondata, go ahead. It's not my money, I don't care how you waste it.
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (pkoury)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pkoury »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">These threads keep getting worse and worse. Congratulations on deciding to go with uberdata, you have many experiences ahead of you that are well worth the time and aggrivation. I personally love messing around with **** that's almost all there but not quite, hey and apparently uberdata is about to get better with its next update....hahaha right!! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Watch it Phil....I may have to come kick your Neptuned ***! HAHA
Uberdata Tuner Directory
There's gotta be someone on there semi-close thats willing to help you tune
</TD></TR></TABLE>Watch it Phil....I may have to come kick your Neptuned ***! HAHA
Uberdata Tuner Directory
There's gotta be someone on there semi-close thats willing to help you tune
i still have the ecu havent sold it yet haha w/ 450cc dsm's..
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (Mpir3)
well it starts and all
but idles no good
runs wayyy too rich at idle and across the rpm's
and just doesnt run right.
tried tuning w/ wide band adjustted all the maps still no good.
even w/ a basemap ht member made me it ran check engine light at start up.
but idles no good
runs wayyy too rich at idle and across the rpm's
and just doesnt run right.
tried tuning w/ wide band adjustted all the maps still no good.
even w/ a basemap ht member made me it ran check engine light at start up.
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (egturbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well it starts and all
but idles no good
runs wayyy too rich at idle and across the rpm's
and just doesnt run right.
tried tuning w/ wide band adjustted all the maps still no good.
even w/ a basemap ht member made me it ran check engine light at start up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds like you never even got it setup right to begin with. So you never reallyt tuned with it at all. Maybe you had some bad soldering connections, who prepped the ECU for shipping? I've been using it for a few months now, playing with it when ever I have time and never had any problems. If you had a CEL from the get go you should have looked into fixing that first.
but idles no good
runs wayyy too rich at idle and across the rpm's
and just doesnt run right.
tried tuning w/ wide band adjustted all the maps still no good.
even w/ a basemap ht member made me it ran check engine light at start up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds like you never even got it setup right to begin with. So you never reallyt tuned with it at all. Maybe you had some bad soldering connections, who prepped the ECU for shipping? I've been using it for a few months now, playing with it when ever I have time and never had any problems. If you had a CEL from the get go you should have looked into fixing that first.
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Re: Hondata or Uberdata? (Black-LS)
snail tuning made the ecu for me.. and i didnt get a cel at first.. i had problems the first day then i asked ht member to make me a base map then the next day i used that map then thats when the cel came on.. just problems after problems.
