alright guys, i have been toying around with the idea of getting hondata s200 for my car but now i am thinking of getting the s300 unit. does anybody have any experience with this unit yet?? i have a 99 civic si that is turbocharged and according to hondata's website it comes with everything you need. i would like to hear some feedback if anyone has any. thanks!!

 

Actually from the experience I've had so far with the unit, its been pretty solid so far. I've noticed that it was much easier to use larger injectors than with the S200, due to its higher resolution. On the S200, though the injector pulse widths were tunable for most injectors, there were some sizes from other companies that no matter what was done, may have idled correctly, but just continually had "holes" in the partial throttle area. With the S300, these really seemed to be cleaned up, and done much more quickly. Not to mention, everything is now in REAL TIME in terms of saving data, as opposed to shutting the car down, waiting for the romulator to burn, then restarting. Now, there's no need to sweat extra cables and cords and auxilliary equipment like EPROM burners and such. You can simply load and go like many of the other standalones on the market. So far, from my somewhat limited experience, I give it 2 thumbs up.


Modified by TheShodan at 5:57 PM 4/1/2006

 

Hondata S300:
Well there is no burning, ROM's or romulators or anything.
A USB plug. Every thing is in realtime and it's plug & play.
Everything in one package.
It's S200 made easy.

/ph

 

i just bought s300 so i dont have any experience with it yet, car gets tuned on tues.

 

It is an awesome unit and have worked with several set-ups so far

Let me know if you need any help ordering one.

 

actually, i am looking to get one in the next week or two. thanks for the feedback guys. i think i made my decision. so far i have seen them go for around $600.00. anyone know if there is any place to get them cheaper?

Dave O-

 

and typeoneeg6, keep us posted on what kind of power you make and how easy it was to tune the car.

Dave O-

 

I will be buying the s300 soon, switching out from Neptune.

 

dont mean to thread jack or anything, i just have a quick question, which is more user friendly and easier to learn crome or the s300?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VI Boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont mean to thread jack or anything, i just have a quick question, which is more user friendly and easier to learn crome or the s300?</TD></TR></TABLE>

s300. One cable and you are ready to tune.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VI Boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont mean to thread jack or anything, i just have a quick question, which is more user friendly and easier to learn crome or the s300?</TD></TR></TABLE>

same question but Neptune vs. s300?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00IntegrAllmotoR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">same question but Neptune vs. s300?</TD></TR></TABLE>

As of right now, only neptune dealers can tune neptune systems. The hondata s300 connects with a simple USB cable and you can alter anything till your hearts content. So, my answer is s300.

 

it is up to the tuner if they can use it fully, and make it work.

i tuned with MASE and he had it running WAY better than i had it running with the S200, the idle, drive, and WOT is SMOOTH, and there have been talks of it forgetting information, etc. etc. its all HEAR say, i havent had any problems but i cant speak for others.

just my .02

 

My buddy has s300 and on the dyno it would act very inconsistant....do 3 pulls and then the A/F would go way lean.....and the let the car sit at idle and it would go back perfect. I have herd my equal share of good and bad things about it but the bad things seem to be very devistationg to a motor......I went with Crome Pro so i could have all the datalogging and jazz on my laptop in my car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF’n Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My buddy has s300 and on the dyno it would act very inconsistant....do 3 pulls and then the A/F would go way lean.....and the let the car sit at idle and it would go back perfect. I have herd my equal share of good and bad things about it but the bad things seem to be very devistationg to a motor......I went with Crome Pro so i could have all the datalogging and jazz on my laptop in my car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It could be the tuner was not running the car consistantly with the same water temps or did not adjust the water temp correction table accordingly.

The hondata s300 has datalogging by the way.... and a lot more jazz.

 

i have been looking at upgrading from the s200 as well, can you just switch the chip slot out on in my current s200 setup for the usb port or should i start with a new ecu?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It could be the tuner was not running the car consistantly with the same water temps or did not adjust the water temp correction table accordingly.

The hondata s300 has datalogging by the way.... and a lot more jazz.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wasnt the tuner, very reputable tuner by the way, because the car continues to do it while driving on the street....cruising down the highway and it screws up on him and then goes back normal....and I kno that s300 has datalogging, im not stupid but i was sayin that crome pro has EVERYTHING that s300 has to offer

 

$550.00

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by forcefed9974 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually, i am looking to get one in the next week or two. thanks for the feedback guys. i think i made my decision. so far i have seen them go for around $600.00. anyone know if there is any place to get them cheaper?

Dave O-</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey I see you are in Nazareth. We are in Easton and are a Hondata dealer. PM me and we can discuss pricing if you'd like.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF’n Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wasnt the tuner, very reputable tuner by the way, because the car continues to do it while driving on the street....cruising down the highway and it screws up on him and then goes back normal....and I kno that s300 has datalogging, im not stupid but i was sayin that crome pro has EVERYTHING that s300 has to offer </TD></TR></TABLE>

let's not turn this into a crome vs hondata thread because anyone with half a clue knows crome pro does not have everything the s300 has. yes it might have everything the s200 has but not the s300. s300 has the ability to datalog without having a laptop connected. so u can go run a 1/4 and save the datalog in the internal memory to upload to a laptop later. and alot more jazz..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flip1199 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let's not turn this into a crome vs hondata thread because anyone with half a clue knows crome pro does not have everything the s300 has. yes it might have everything the s200 has but not the s300. s300 has the ability to datalog without having a laptop connected. so u can go run a 1/4 and save the datalog in the internal memory to upload to a laptop later. and alot more jazz..</TD></TR></TABLE>

so basically the AEM EMS and the AFC hack pretty much can do the same thing

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF’n Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wasnt the tuner, very reputable tuner by the way, because the car continues to do it while driving on the street....cruising down the highway and it screws up on him and then goes back normal....and I kno that s300 has datalogging, im not stupid but i was sayin that crome pro has EVERYTHING that s300 has to offer </TD></TR></TABLE>

oh boy...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It could be the tuner was not running the car consistantly with the same water temps or did not adjust the water temp correction table accordingly.

The hondata s300 has datalogging by the way.... and a lot more jazz.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the water temp compensation doesnt work.......most people dont have widebands in the car all the time to notice when the car all of a sudden runs over a full point leaner....its obvious more then 1 person has seen this and hondata has choosen to ignore it


dont get me wrong i like the system and lately it has been a little better...but I really hate watching a wideband while racing...and the customer support is non existant

 

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the water temp compensation doesnt work.......most people dont have widebands in the car all the time to notice when the car all of a sudden runs over a full point leaner....its obvious more then 1 person has seen this and hondata has choosen to ignore it


dont get me wrong i like the system and lately it has been a little better...but I really hate watching a wideband while racing...and the customer support is non existant</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why is it every ECU I look at and decide to purchase for my car.....I read some **** thread about why it sucks and can eventually cause damage to your motor? I am no rocket scientist but there has to be a way to make a bug free ECU for these cars. I origionally had an AEM and had an injector driver fail, then got it fixed just to hear from a reputable tuner why it sucks *****, then I decide on NepTune but I WILL NOT BUY something that I have to take my car hours away just to pay someone to fine tune it, and then have an new version come out and have an ECU that nobody will want to buy once I dont need it. Now I decided on Hondata S300 but I DO NOT want an ECU that could potentially lean my car out.....the last time that happened it cost me 5k and 6 months of downtime.

 

i got the car tuned. tuned in 7 pulls. the basemaps are almost perfect.