Reilly

You read it right. I had this discussion with a guy that owns an import shop in the central valley. I was educated on the subject. I was told that my car and Kaj's car didn't actually make 300+whp, because you can't make more than 250 "real" whp without a rising rate fuel pressure. So with my Hondata, 550's, SC34 turbo on my GSR I am only making 250 "real" hp. I am so depressed.

P.S. Now I just wonder how all the guys out there with cams and headwork and bolt ons on their GSR's are making near 200whp on 270's? I am so confused.

TeStUdO

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reilly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You read it right. I had this discussion with a guy that owns an import shop in the central valley. I was educated on the subject. I was told that my car and Kaj's car didn't actually make 300+whp, because you can't make more than 250 "real" whp without a rising rate fuel pressure. So with my Hondata, 550's, SC34 turbo on my GSR I am only making 250 "real" hp. I am so depressed.

P.S. Now I just wonder how all the guys out there with cams and headwork and bolt ons on their GSR's are making near 200whp on 270's? I am so confused. </TD></TR></TABLE>

OK, so you are just saying that the guy you talked to was a bonehead and that you know better?? Maybe I didnt read this post right.

drvfast

sorry to say that guy does not know what he is talking about

Jared

what's the difference between whp and "real" whp. sounds like someone is blowing smoke up your ***.

silverfox

with my 440 and honda s200b i am making 345 whp at 14psi on a ls

rextec

You read it right. I had this discussion with a guy that owns an import shop in the central valley. I was educated on the subject. I was told that my car and Kaj's car didn't actually make 300+whp, because you can't make more than 250 "real" whp without a rising rate fuel pressure. So with my Hondata, 550's, SC34 turbo on my GSR I am only making 250 "real" hp. I am so depressed.
P.S. Now I just wonder how all the guys out there with cams and headwork and bolt ons on their GSR's are making near 200whp on 270's? I am so confused.


bullshit

HXMan

Tell him he is a dumbass. A dyno number is a dyno number...it doesn't matter what kind of fuel control you are using.

11psiTurboSI

There a LS on this board that made 400hp and 375tq at 28psi with 550cc and C-16 race gas using Hondata!

rocket256

If I was you I take him your dyno sheet and say look dumbazz.
better yet just kick him in his

Reilly

Yeah, I know I have "real" hp. I am just sharing quality information that is out there. Thanks for the replys guys.

Oh yeah, I forgot to add, he told my best friend H-T memer Ryan Autry, that with his 440's, he won't be able to make more than 220 Funny thing, couple years ago when Ryan dyno'd at Import Builders, w/a jackson, he made 220fwhp on the 440's at 60-65% duty cycle, with stock fuel pressure and Hondata

I guess the way it works it is you take the injector and divide by 2

vod

hahahah take the injector cc and divide by 2

tony1

I know that a 550 injector is at 95% duty cycle at 7.5k at 350whp at 55psi fuel pressure...

SEFIxCivic

my friend made 405 whp on 550cc injectors w/ the fuel pressure turned up.

nigel

thats some funny stuff man. werent you in hanford yesterday? I forgot the name of that shop there. they have the team skidtron gang if I am correct.

you gotta love talking to people that live in their own world. they have some wierd philosiphies.

FredoSP

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This guy knows his stuff!

Reilly

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Modified by Reilly at 5:57 PM 1/7/2004

PM-Performance

i made 295whp on 550's with 38psi at like 65% duty cylce.then we were making close to 400whp or so with the pressure jacked up to like 55 psi or soand again at like 65-70% duty cylce

1700anddroping

is it really worth replying to this thread hmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!! HELL NO.

275 hp 215 tq @ 7 psi,h22 turbo.stock fuel pressure running 550's.

Boostfed

I made 370whp and 276 ft-lb torque with RC 550cc and Hondata with an AEM FPR but it has been said that the stock FPR is a 1:1 Ratio regulator too. I dunno though!

Reilly

Here is the kicker......he is a Hondata dealer

nigel

oh gawd! vernon tried to feed me that crap too!!!!!lol I was so baffled by that dumb *** comment that I permanantly blocked it out of my memory. he had one valid point that each dyno is different, which I too believe may be true. but besides that he's got a stupid philosiphy on power.

Reilly

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nigel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh gawd! vernon tried to feed me that crap too!!!!!lol I was so baffled by that dumb *** comment that I permanantly blocked it out of my memory. he had one valid point that each dyno is different, which I too believe may be true. but besides that he's got a stupid philosiphy on power.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL.....so true.

By the way, don't know if you saw the red Z28 LS1 at the races last night, but he came up on us when we left, and reved on me It was ugly, walked him 3-4 cars in 3rd gear. Then he had the nerve to try Jay(Kaj), which was worse-3 wide, Jay pulled me 3 cars, he stayed way back after that
Would have made great video if we were ready.

VNTEC

damn if you said Method motor works told you, i would understand why lol

nigel

haha nice! teaches him to underestimate these fwd grocerygetters on crak!

kaj

in Vern's defence i'll say this:
he did say that the cc/2 thing is your whp with a conservative tune..
yeah.. like a 5:1 a/f ratio????