Honda engines and boost
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Turboes were the first way to really make a honda move down the track quick, but now I think the N/A tuners are finally startin to catch up. I remember bout a year ago being N/A was the "cool thing". I think it was because of that whole JDM movement/hype crap. I'd raher have a turboed Honda anyways.
I rather have them think that way. On the street they think my g2integra's another slow rice burner. I try to keep a low profile, no fast & the furious APC crap on my ride. 93 frost white integra gs-r, conservative kit (mugen replica side skirt and lip), old school 95' gsr blades, no stickers, not slammed to the ground and fmic hidden by three layers of screen. But when I burn them from one light to another, I see them scratching thier head in my rear view mirror or they'll turn off to a side street, embarrassed by a "Honda".
I think any motor can be turbocharge some just better than other.A car that is turbocharge
from the factory doesn't mean it perfect. For example the old turbo thunderbird coupe 2.3 liter. The turbocharge system didn't even have a blow off valve.Because off the poor design the engine didnt last too long. I was really supprise when i found out about this. I think that with the technology that are out there to turbocharge honda it become very easy.they also make some amazin power out of these motor.Call me wrong but if company like hondata, turbonetics etc... invested $$$$ in tuning honda than it look to me like honda were meant to be turbed.
very happy ls/vtec turbo 11psi at 8000rpm 290whp +75 shots of nitrous
from the factory doesn't mean it perfect. For example the old turbo thunderbird coupe 2.3 liter. The turbocharge system didn't even have a blow off valve.Because off the poor design the engine didnt last too long. I was really supprise when i found out about this. I think that with the technology that are out there to turbocharge honda it become very easy.they also make some amazin power out of these motor.Call me wrong but if company like hondata, turbonetics etc... invested $$$$ in tuning honda than it look to me like honda were meant to be turbed.
very happy ls/vtec turbo 11psi at 8000rpm 290whp +75 shots of nitrous
As a moderator of ImportLounge and a Honda Loyalist - I felt I needed to reply.
I am a diehard Honda fan and respect all setups NA and Turbo. No one was really truly hating on Turbo Hondas. There are just some of us that prefer NA, I myself am one of those people. It just suits what I want out of my car.
There are many people on our board with Turbo Hondas, and Turbo Cars of other makes. The board started off as a Honda board...
I wish people would think before they go and make posts like these.
I am a diehard Honda fan and respect all setups NA and Turbo. No one was really truly hating on Turbo Hondas. There are just some of us that prefer NA, I myself am one of those people. It just suits what I want out of my car.
There are many people on our board with Turbo Hondas, and Turbo Cars of other makes. The board started off as a Honda board...
I wish people would think before they go and make posts like these.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kpt4321 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or maybe their pissed because you are incessantly worried about how much power you can make at a low boost level, when it doesn't matter. At all.
Considering they can make 500+ whp on a stock block, I'm sure they will be ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually it does mater with low boost, because you will be at the pump filling up on 94 octane and putting 420 to the wheels at 13psi. They will notice on their way to track to fill up on 108 octane to sustaine that amount of hp at 23psi.
Does that clear it up?
Considering they can make 500+ whp on a stock block, I'm sure they will be ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually it does mater with low boost, because you will be at the pump filling up on 94 octane and putting 420 to the wheels at 13psi. They will notice on their way to track to fill up on 108 octane to sustaine that amount of hp at 23psi.
Does that clear it up?
I agree, 99% of the people on ImportLounge are Honda loyalists and the person that posted this sorry thread took one persons comments and blew them out of proportion.
Get the facts before you quote an entire forum.
Get the facts before you quote an entire forum.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree, 99% of the people on ImportLounge are Honda loyalists and the person that posted this sorry thread took one persons comments and blew them out of proportion.
Get the facts before you quote an entire forum.
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tr00 dat.
C'mon man, the original poster needs to get a grip and realize that NO board has everyone who thinks the exact SAME.
Hell, I've been active on that board since before it changed names for the umpteenth time.....
LOL.
Case in point, I have a t4/t3 AND t25 sitting here in my living room - and the bigger one is going into my itr.
So suck it!!!
Get the facts before you quote an entire forum.
</TD></TR></TABLE>tr00 dat.
C'mon man, the original poster needs to get a grip and realize that NO board has everyone who thinks the exact SAME.
Hell, I've been active on that board since before it changed names for the umpteenth time.....
LOL.
Case in point, I have a t4/t3 AND t25 sitting here in my living room - and the bigger one is going into my itr.
So suck it!!!
I'll vouch for importlounge, as I am a moderator there also. I think the "Ricers over there" post was way off center.
Lets just drop the "importlounge" part of this conversation and stick to, "some people say.."
Okay,
Brian
Lets just drop the "importlounge" part of this conversation and stick to, "some people say.."
Okay,
Brian
Being yet another moderator on Importlounge, the driver of a turbo'ed Honda, and even the one that sparked this supposed "B00st Hating" - I'd like to comment that the entire thread on Importlounge ended up centering around me tossing around the idea of trading my Turbo'ed B18B (up or down) for something a little more rev happy along the lines of an NA application...
No "hating" took place at all, just people expressing opinions on the subject - the creator of this thread is seriously off base and needs to stop and think before bringing about a contraversy online.
No "hating" took place at all, just people expressing opinions on the subject - the creator of this thread is seriously off base and needs to stop and think before bringing about a contraversy online.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kpt4321 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Or maybe their pissed because you are incessantly worried about how much power you can make at a low boost level, when it doesn't matter. At all.
Considering they can make 500+ whp on a stock block, I'm sure they will be ok.
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See, sometimes you have to look at the signatures of the people posting. A civic with a motor swap and 3 grand turbo kit (drag gen 3???) with hondata running simillar times as me. Bwhahahah, my car is weak but his turbo kit alone cost more than my car! So I guess one has to hate to justify their purchases. So if someone feels better about themselves by bashing because I have to run double digit (thats putting it lightly) boost levels on a DSM with stock charge pipes and injectors to achieve simillar times as a swapped and turbocharged civic, then I can handle that.
One thing is for sure, you don't see many fast guys disrespecting many other car brands because it seems that most if not all fast guys that work on their own cars have respect and can see the positives in many different makes and models.
Or maybe their pissed because you are incessantly worried about how much power you can make at a low boost level, when it doesn't matter. At all.
Considering they can make 500+ whp on a stock block, I'm sure they will be ok.
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See, sometimes you have to look at the signatures of the people posting. A civic with a motor swap and 3 grand turbo kit (drag gen 3???) with hondata running simillar times as me. Bwhahahah, my car is weak but his turbo kit alone cost more than my car! So I guess one has to hate to justify their purchases. So if someone feels better about themselves by bashing because I have to run double digit (thats putting it lightly) boost levels on a DSM with stock charge pipes and injectors to achieve simillar times as a swapped and turbocharged civic, then I can handle that.
One thing is for sure, you don't see many fast guys disrespecting many other car brands because it seems that most if not all fast guys that work on their own cars have respect and can see the positives in many different makes and models.
ummm...I wasn't doing any bashing. Nor was I worried that my car ran what it ran with the mods done to it.
And yea I was only running 7psi on a decent sized turbo with a very conservative tune.
I ended up selling it all because I was afriad of my engine grenading.
on me.
I wish there was a sarcasim font or something on the internet.
And yea I was only running 7psi on a decent sized turbo with a very conservative tune.
I ended up selling it all because I was afriad of my engine grenading.
on me.I wish there was a sarcasim font or something on the internet.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Distorted »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Still..notthing quite like beating a factory sports car with a civic, hehe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
N/A D-16 Y-8 =$2,000
Weight reduction = free
Tank of 93 Octain = $15.00
Killing a Mustang GT with a 7 year old SOHC Honda = Priceless
N/A D-16 Y-8 =$2,000
Weight reduction = free
Tank of 93 Octain = $15.00
Killing a Mustang GT with a 7 year old SOHC Honda = Priceless
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lazerus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Dont forget. Speed isnt everything
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Please slap yourself
</TD></TR></TABLE>Please slap yourself
being a fellow moderator on importlounge, i agree with cody
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cody »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the creator of this thread is seriously off base and needs to stop and think before bringing about a contraversy online.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cody »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the creator of this thread is seriously off base and needs to stop and think before bringing about a contraversy online.
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Honda haters suck.
I hate ricers just like anyone else here, but to generalize Honda with Rice just pisses me off.
My 1.8 makes HP, reliably, and is daily driven.
I run what I brung.
Why cant we get respect for making decent power out of an economy car?
I hate ricers just like anyone else here, but to generalize Honda with Rice just pisses me off.
My 1.8 makes HP, reliably, and is daily driven.
I run what I brung.
Why cant we get respect for making decent power out of an economy car?
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N/A D-16 Y-8 =$2,000
Weight reduction = free
Tank of 93 Octain = $15.00
Killing a Mustang GT with a 7 year old SOHC Honda = Priceless</TD></TR></TABLE>
For every domestic you beat, 100 domestics beat a Honda.
N/A D-16 Y-8 =$2,000
Weight reduction = free
Tank of 93 Octain = $15.00
Killing a Mustang GT with a 7 year old SOHC Honda = Priceless</TD></TR></TABLE>
For every domestic you beat, 100 domestics beat a Honda.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fEEsh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
For every domestic you beat, 100 domestics beat a Honda.
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How would you know little boy?
For every domestic you beat, 100 domestics beat a Honda.
</TD></TR></TABLE>How would you know little boy?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redturbohatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A car that is turbocharge
from the factory doesn't mean it perfect. For example the old turbo thunderbird coupe 2.3 liter. The turbocharge system didn't even have a blow off valve.Because off the poor design the engine didnt last too long. I was really supprise when i found out about this
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You should go pop the hood of any mid-80s Chrysler Turbo (like the one in my garage
) I'm not exactly sure how they did it, but from what I can tell the exhaust and intake manifolds are on the same side of the head(exhaust on top) and the turbo is not only bolted to the exhaust manifold, but the the intake manifold directly below it. No charge piping, blow off or bypass valve, intercooler etc. just 9 psi of hot air going right into the engine. They wised up in the late 80s and redesigned it so it had an intercooler at least. But hey, I can beat riced out Hondas and embarassed the hell out of a kid at my school w/a brand new Focus ZX3 with a 4-door 86 Dodge Lancer POS 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by calib17a »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On the street they think my g2integra's another slow rice burner. I try to keep a low profile, no fast & the furious APC crap on my ride. 93 frost white integra gs-r, conservative kit (mugen replica side skirt and lip), old school 95' gsr blades, no stickers, not slammed to the ground and fmic hidden by three layers of screen. But when I burn them from one light to another, I see them scratching thier head in my rear view mirror or they'll turn off to a side street, embarrassed by a "Honda".</TD></TR></TABLE>
from the factory doesn't mean it perfect. For example the old turbo thunderbird coupe 2.3 liter. The turbocharge system didn't even have a blow off valve.Because off the poor design the engine didnt last too long. I was really supprise when i found out about this
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You should go pop the hood of any mid-80s Chrysler Turbo (like the one in my garage
) I'm not exactly sure how they did it, but from what I can tell the exhaust and intake manifolds are on the same side of the head(exhaust on top) and the turbo is not only bolted to the exhaust manifold, but the the intake manifold directly below it. No charge piping, blow off or bypass valve, intercooler etc. just 9 psi of hot air going right into the engine. They wised up in the late 80s and redesigned it so it had an intercooler at least. But hey, I can beat riced out Hondas and embarassed the hell out of a kid at my school w/a brand new Focus ZX3 with a 4-door 86 Dodge Lancer POS 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by calib17a »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On the street they think my g2integra's another slow rice burner. I try to keep a low profile, no fast & the furious APC crap on my ride. 93 frost white integra gs-r, conservative kit (mugen replica side skirt and lip), old school 95' gsr blades, no stickers, not slammed to the ground and fmic hidden by three layers of screen. But when I burn them from one light to another, I see them scratching thier head in my rear view mirror or they'll turn off to a side street, embarrassed by a "Honda".</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by psi420 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How would you know little boy?
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Becaue he drives a 96EK Hybrid and an '03 Cobra.
How would you know little boy?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Becaue he drives a 96EK Hybrid and an '03 Cobra.
Hating on a boosted Honda is an epitome of Ignorance. Just because the person can't afford to properly tune a turbo, pay for tickets because their car will be faster, pay attention to a few extra gauges in the dash...Their conclusion of a boosted HOnda is unreliable, and etc...
i too am a member of importlounge and turbo d-series. there is not hatin on anything there except for overly done rice...original poster is WAY off base. we appreciate all types as long as it's done tastefully. there are turbo'd d-series, b-series, and other stock turbo'd cars as well wrx and sti's...now even blown cobra's and lightnings. if you misunderstood some banter between members then
... oh yeah...there are some pretty fast n/a cars there too.
... oh yeah...there are some pretty fast n/a cars there too.









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