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Old 10-04-2010, 03:42 PM
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Im dont know what one to go with, this will be my daily driver. I was kinda leaning towards the GT40R since it would make more power at less boost. I want to be running 10psi daily,
Or just way to big of a turbo for a daily driver? I dont have any whp goals, whatever it does it does.


this is my motor setup
dart block 84.50mm bore
LS crankshaft*
JE pistons 9.3:1 compression,upgraded wrist pins and piston rings
Eagle H-beam rods
Moroso 5.5 quart deep sump oil pan with pickup
Type R oil pump
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ARP head studs
Golden Eagle head dowels
B16 head
3angle valve job, ported head
Stainless Crower 1mm oversized intake valves, .5mm oversized exhaust valves
Crower stage 2 turbo cams
Crower duel vavle springs with titanium retainers
Crower adjustable cam gears
TODA timing belt
CTR crank pulley
King Motorsports extended intake manifold studs
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Edelbrock Victor X intake manifold with Edelbrock throttlebody
AEM Fuel rail
B&M fuel pressure regulator
RC 750cc saturated fuel injectors
Crane ignition system
AEM EMS for tuning
9lbs flywheel
GSR tranny.

Im sure theres a few other things im missing
Old 10-04-2010, 03:51 PM
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35R, quicker spool makes it funner on the street

thats what im running and i love it, at 10lbs im making just over 400whp.
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a 3076R is giving you a massive response and at the same time opportunity to run around 550whp

I would drop the gt40 or 35 if it is just a DD
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Originally Posted by atec
a 3076R is giving you a massive response and at the same time opportunity to run around 550whp

I would drop the gt40 or 35 if it is just a DD
I wouldn't go that far with that kind of credit to a GT3076R, even with full-race gas, and over 30psi, but I do agree, Neither the GT35R or GT40R is needed to get good response, better torque band and powerband for a "daily driver". Too big
Old 10-04-2010, 06:11 PM
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The car is a DD but i didnt build this motor to put a small turbo. I want it to make good power at low boost. What im looking for really is to have a car that i drive around every day and when i want to mash on it its gonna make serious power. Would like to stay out of boost as much as posible for durabilty reasons.
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35R, perfect for a street car that will see some track time,, or for just a fast street car

on 10lbs you will see close to 400whp im sure.
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in my opinion for a daily driver it is a waste to run either turbo's, considering the 35r is water cooled and your ect temps will be high as it is with the intercooler blocking all the airflow to your radiator. Now your introduce anywhere between 10-20 deg of extra heat with a 35r. Stick with a garrett t3/t4 which will spool up quick enough and give you all the power you need for a street car if it will hook up and call it a day.

good luck
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3076r, 5857, s256, sc34, but if youre dead set on those two turbos GT35R
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Default Re: Gt35R or Gt40R for daily driver

Originally Posted by HyperFlow
. Would like to stay out of boost as much as posible for durabilty reasons.
This logic is rather objectively flawed, but you're the one making the decision, so we won't get into any kind of debate about that specifically, since it draws away from your question. Based upon the reasonable choices, the smaller of the two would be at least a more reasonable choice.
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Originally Posted by HyperFlow
Im dont know what one to go with, this will be my daily driver. I was kinda leaning towards the GT40R since it would make more power at less boost. I want to be running 10psi daily,
Or just way to big of a turbo for a daily driver? I dont have any whp goals, whatever it does it does.


this is my motor setup
dart block 84.50mm bore
LS crankshaft*
JE pistons 9.3:1 compression,upgraded wrist pins and piston rings
Eagle H-beam rods
Moroso 5.5 quart deep sump oil pan with pickup
Type R oil pump
Cometic extreme duty head gasket*
ARP head studs
Golden Eagle head dowels
B16 head
3angle valve job, ported head
Stainless Crower 1mm oversized intake valves, .5mm oversized exhaust valves
Crower stage 2 turbo cams
Crower duel vavle springs with titanium retainers
Crower adjustable cam gears
TODA timing belt
CTR crank pulley
King Motorsports extended intake manifold studs
Stainless ARP exhaust manifold studs
Edelbrock Victor X intake manifold with Edelbrock throttlebody
AEM Fuel rail
B&M fuel pressure regulator
RC 750cc saturated fuel injectors
Crane ignition system
AEM EMS for tuning
9lbs flywheel
GSR tranny.

Im sure theres a few other things im missing
it wont matter what turbo you put on there, the engine wont make it through the dyno session anyway lol. def get a different crank pulley.

you wont be able to make much more than 450whp with those injectors, the pressure regulator sucks, run an oem head gasket. it looks like you wasted your money in a lot of areas that just arent needed. stock rail, regulator, ignition, oil pan, and oem honda block would have worked fine for your modest goals.

definitely dont go larger than a 35r, and you might want to step down to something even smaller than that.
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Originally Posted by hybrdthry911
it wont matter what turbo you put on there, the engine wont make it through the dyno session anyway lol. def get a different crank pulley.

you wont be able to make much more than 450whp with those injectors, the pressure regulator sucks, run an oem head gasket. it looks like you wasted your money in a lot of areas that just arent needed. stock rail, regulator, ignition, oil pan, and oem honda block would have worked fine for your modest goals.

definitely dont go larger than a 35r, and you might want to step down to something even smaller than that.
dear negative nancy,

the guy asked what turbo to run. not for you to criticize his setup. typical honda-tech garbage. didnt your mother tell you...."if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all!"

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no need to get anything more than a straight t3

LMAO.
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These days I think pretty much ''stupidness'' is passed on like a legacy.

Mid frame turbo X is good, but I'll use bigger turbo Z to make more power at low boost when small frame turbo C will make more low end horsepower than either two.

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The GT35 and Precision 6262 seem to have the best reviews for the daily turbos for the honda acura crowd... they make power but maintain decent spool....

I had a 60-1 as my first turbo and i thought that was a very nice turbo but thats for pump gas.
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Originally Posted by projectcivicjp
dear negative nancy,

the guy asked what turbo to run. not for you to criticize his setup. typical honda-tech garbage. didnt your mother tell you...."if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all!"

THE END
I really dont mind sombudy criticizing my setup, I been out of the honda game since 2002 and just got back into it this spring. So theres lots of stuff that changed and new things out there now Plus things i plain dont remember. So any input is gladly accepted.
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Originally Posted by MidShipCivic
These days I think pretty much ''stupidness'' is passed on like a legacy.

Mid frame turbo X is good, but I'll use bigger turbo Z to make more power at low boost when small frame turbo C will make more low end horsepower than either two.

Logic to you dosnt mean its logic for others. Thanks for your imput.
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I think you should've thought about this before you built the motor... Its hard to find the equilibrium between race/ track car and DD. But I think between the two choices you listed, you should go with the 35r for DD. I have the precision 6162s that made 508whp on 19psi, even though it makes a lot of power I miss the rapid throttle/boost response from my puny greddy 18g that only made 259whp but saw full boost of ~20psi at ~3200rpm.

Cant wait to see results from your build! Good luck.
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Originally Posted by ColtonVTECs
I think you should've thought about this before you built the motor... Its hard to find the equilibrium between race/ track car and DD. But I think between the two choices you listed, you should go with the 35r for DD. I have the precision 6162s that made 508whp on 19psi, even though it makes a lot of power I miss the rapid throttle/boost response from my puny greddy 18g that only made 259whp but saw full boost of ~20psi at ~3200rpm.

Cant wait to see results from your build! Good luck.
Thanks for your input, im actualy only dropping this motor in my car next spring. Im curently running a b18c1 with a top mount T04E turbo setup. The car made 427whp at 18psi. I got approx 7 months to make up my mind what i want to run/change on this new build.

On a side note, im not set on any brand of turbo or turbo really. The only thing im set on is not puting a small turbo, i dont want lowend power, If i want low end power i will drive my all motor car around. I want this motor to make big mid-topend power.
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Originally Posted by HyperFlow
Thanks for your input, im actualy only dropping this motor in my car next spring. Im curently running a b18c1 with a top mount T04E turbo setup. The car made 427whp at 18psi. I got approx 7 months to make up my mind what i want to run/change on this new build.

On a side note, im not set on any brand of turbo or turbo really. The only thing im set on is not puting a small turbo, i dont want lowend power, If i want low end power i will drive my all motor car around. I want this motor to make big mid-topend power.

It seems that you have allready set your mind, why dont you jump on the old T4 GT42R bandwagon that was hot some years ago, Im shure it will give you enough lag to cope with, make shure it is single sq exhaust with the biggest housing, that way you will be out of boost untill 6000-7000rpms, Max power output will be in the 900+/-area honestly there is a lot of turbos listed that gives you descent mid and topend power and in the same time be responsive

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Originally Posted by MidShipCivic
These days I think pretty much ''stupidness'' is passed on like a legacy.
Haha...I was dumbfounded by the sheer volume of dumb in this thread as well.
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dear negative nancy,

the guy asked what turbo to run. not for you to criticize his setup. typical honda-tech garbage. didnt your mother tell you...."if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all!"

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honestly judging by the parts, it seems likely no one has ever corrected him. many people take their knowledge from other makes and try to apply them to hondas, and no one says anything so the OP might be none the wiser. really im just trying to help him out. if anything i recommended would not have a positive impact on his wallet or his engine then by all means correct me.

you have actually added nothing to this thread i have.
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your asking for a 9 second turbo to run on the street?

get a 3076 and be happy with it.. i sure was (ran 10s with it under 20 psi)
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I'm a big turbo guy so I say try it out and see for yourself. I have a gt35 with a divided .84

housing and I like it. I actually want to get a bigger gt4088 with a bigger turbine housing. If

your has enough *** by itself it will be fun to drive out of boost. I use lag to my advantage

and if you run from a roll just brake boost.
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i have a almost new 60-1 .82ar if your intersted its a awesome turbo great fast spool and makes really good power i make just under 500whp on 93oct in my prelude!!


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