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Old 08-12-2007, 03:39 PM
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well here is my dyno...258hp 195 torque....9 lb on stock gsr block!!!!! on a ar. 50 63. trim turbo..u guyz think i can push more??????? Do u guyz think its SAFE to be in that power area????? hit me up and give me some additional advice and information???? i really wanna know if it is safe on my stock b18c cuz i dont really wanna blow it up but....its pretty quick so far but...can i handle hit????...hit me up.

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Default Re: gsr turbo dyno question??? (gsrtpower)

u need to richn it up a lil more...your really close to 13 afr after 5500 rpm...
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yea.....i was at 11.7 at full throttle..but i dont really konw why my tuner put it at 12.0...but the car afr is pretty Ok!!!! at steady idle is at 14.7 and lower...but yea....anyways.....u guyz think my car well be safe in this power area????? what do u guyz think??????hit me up....
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Default Re: gsr turbo dyno question??? (gsrtpower)

yeah if you add some more fuel you should be ok.

my friend is making 300/210 on a 135k mile bone stock gsr @9 psi boost. took me an hour to fine tune on the dyno off a street tune. he is running 19* timing up top. what do your timing values look like? how do the plugs look?
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i dunno...i think the tuner advance the timing some what, my spark plug is freakin beat up from the dyno just got it brand new and gap them to .30....but am getting new ones tomorrow...and ah....i think am running ngk-7 step 2 cold....but yea......so u think i should richin it up little bit???? but my exhaust is stack up with black radidue.....dont u think thats rich enough???????
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you cant go by the way your exhaust tip looks. you would be much better off with a lil richer afr, honestly for peace of mind.

those ngk plugs are good to use and the gap seems good, so i would get them again
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alrite thx....damn..i wanna reach the 300hp mark.....,but i really need the ramhorn, 70mm, and edelbrock manifold......it well achieve my 300hp wish mark...u guyz think i should stay witht the bkre7-11 plug? i was wondering if the ngk-8 would be better?????umm alrite.... anyone got any additional tuning or safe advice on my dyno rating?????? please let me know.....am gonna take it to the track and run it.......i just wanna be prepare so i dont go errrrrrrrrrrrrrr vrooooooooooooooooooooooooooom pissssssssssss vroooooooooom pisssssssssssssss vroooooooooooooooooooooooooom pissssssssss vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrom BOOOOM.....craaaaaaaaaaaaankkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk >last word>FUUUUUUCKKKKKKK!!!
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Default Re: gsr turbo dyno question??? (gsrtpower)

you dont need a 70mm throttle body, and running 11's is way to dam cold...run 8 or 9's... richin up ur afrs and inch your timing up and listen and check ur plugs for detonation...
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lol....no am using ngk-7 not ngk 11's..but alrite...thx for the informaton!!!!!!
any other suggestion????
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what are you using to tune it with? who is tuning it? use this plug bcpr7es they are from ngk....i would gap them to .28. richen the fuel up. and see what it makes.....my gsr makes 325 with a 60 trim.....i use those plugs and they work great. List your setup if you want more help. Also i have my s200 4sale with my tune on it...if your interested.
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oh am using CROME!!! some guy from dynotune performance tune my car in madison, WI...........oh anyways....i have...

t3 t4 ar. 50 ex63. trim turbo

drag kit pipe
drag manifold>>>>sux azz manifold
tail 38mm waste gate
XSturbo blov off
450 cc with resistor
3inch downpipe
p72 chip with CROME OShlich??
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oh am using CROME!!! some guy from dynotune performance tune my car in madison, WI...........oh anyways....i have...

t3 t4 ar. 50 ex63. trim turbo
drag intercooler
drag kit pipe
drag manifold>>>>sux azz manifold
tail 38mm waste gate
XSturbo blov off
450 cc with resistor
3inch downpipe
p72 chip with CROME OShlich??
aem uego wide band
gsr oem manifold

that's it!!

let me know if u guyz have any helpful suggestion...thx
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you could definately make more power...you're going to need a 3bar or a more efficient setup to do it.

I made 315/216 at 10psi on my GT3255 on an SLS shorty....keep pushing because the engine can handle it IF you're tuned properly
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Default Re: gsr turbo dyno question??? (gsrtpower)

You don't need a ram horn thats for sure, stock gsr, with our log manifold on a 57 trim, on 7psi



Its not really about how much psi you run, its how much power and how well the tune is.
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lol the -11 doesnt mean they are 11 heat range, it means they come pre-gapped.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you could definately make more power...you're going to need a 3bar or a more efficient setup to do it.

I made 315/216 at 10psi on my GT3255 on an SLS shorty....keep pushing because the engine can handle it IF you're tuned properly</TD></TR></TABLE>

while you can make mmore power, dont fall into that trap of "otheer people make xxx power why arent i". if you sppend the whole time trying to compare your stuff to what other people do you will never be happy, because there will always be someone doing better than you
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so u guyz think my car is properly tuned?
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either you have something restricting your set-up or your tune is very conservative because on 9lbs you should be around 280-300hp on a healthy gsr with a GOOD tune.
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what size exhaust? mayb its restricted...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while you can make more power, dont fall into that trap of "otheer people make xxx power why arent i". if you spend the whole time trying to compare your stuff to what other people do you will never be happy, because there will always be someone doing better than you</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wasn't stating my power numbers in order to compare/show off, but rather to show the OP that he can make more power safely on that engine.

To the OP: Like BlackEG said, dont fall into the whole number comparison thing. Build your car in a manner that makes you happy. It isn't all about peak power either...some cars make 400whp, but have no powerband. On my setup, i was shooting for good midrage and a nice overall powerband....its a blast on the street
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I wasn't stating my power numbers in order to compare/show off, but rather to show the OP that he can make more power safely on that engine.

To the OP: Like BlackEG said, dont fall into the whole number comparison thing. Build your car in a manner that makes you happy. It isn't all about peak power either...some cars make 400whp, but have no powerband. On my setup, i was shooting for good midrage and a nice overall powerband....its a blast on the street </TD></TR></TABLE>


cool, i wasnt singling you out either. your post just reminded me of the numbers comparison thing and how i always fall short of others lol.


gsrtpower: your numbers are still within range of where they should be. still though, a little more fuel would only be beneficial. the power or percieved lack thereof could be a function of ignition timing or other factors like small exhaust yada yada yada.

im getting curious, whats your full setup, like turbo kit and the whole 9 yards
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i pretty much have a drag3 turbo kit...but my turbonetic turbo was broken, so i replace it with a regular t3 t4 63 trim turbo....but....yea... am also running 2.5 drag downpipe. and 3" exhasut no cat..........


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Get a 3inch downpipe. That maybe your restriction. Its bottlenecking.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by almostboostedgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a 3inch downpipe. That maybe your restriction. Its bottlenecking. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nah, not likely. looks like his tune. I've had over 390whp on a 2.5" without a problem.
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Nah, not likely. looks like his tune. I've had over 390whp on a 2.5" without a problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2. his tune is a bit rocky, but i couldn't do any better myself.
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would it be okay if i go 10lb of boost? am currently at 9lb? i was wondering if it would make little bit more power...but..i dont think my tuner set any fuel at the 10lb map? he told me that it well go booooom cuz thier no tuning in that section....is it true...?????


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