401B18TEG

84mm GE Sleeve, GSR Block
CP 9.5.1 Piston/Rings
GE Rods
ARP Head Stud





my question is what kind of turbo should i get to obtain 350whp? should i upgrade my value spring and retainer? what kind of cams should i run? what size injector? i'm planning this for a daily driver. im going to use a type r head. help


Modified by 401B18TEG at 6:21 PM 12/19/2007

401B18TEG

forgot one thing it come with a eagle crank. i will take a picture of everything.

m R g S r

stock R head is fine(aka stock cams/valvetrain) .....esp with a stroker you don't want to be revving past what the ITR head will handle.

If you only want 350...only 350 can easily be made with a gt30r with the smaller exhaust housing. but you will want more...and that turbo is capable of it

btw with 84mm and stroker and a big exhaust you will have a very nice powerband.......roadrace car by any chance? should pull hard out of the corners

Schister66

84mm sleeved block and your goal is 350whp? Thats really low for such a setup. Can you give us hints towards the rest of this setup...it'll make the turbo choice a bit clearer. Right now i'm thinking 57 trim in stark contrast to the rest of the setup. For that power goal, there's no reason to get anything bigger/ more expensive. Its simply not worth it. The only "better" turbo i'd suggest is the GT2871r .82ar

btw, watch that Eagle crank...people haven't had great luck w/ them

401B18TEG

well i dont have the block in my hand it a friend. can anyone confirm this if it a GE sleeve? on the second picture it has like thing chipping off. Good idea to follow this build or tear apart my lsvtec.

hotrod99

those arent GE sleeves

hotrod99

im pretty sure thats an ERL superdeck 2 block

401B18TEG

good or bad or walk away to my lsvtec

b16a4

is that whats called a closed deck block?

cant see any water jackets

Schister66

Yeah, that's a closed deck block. I was going to guess a DART block, but i'm not really knowledgeable about them...its just the only closed deck i would think of off-hand

b16a4

looks very strong!

hellakapps

i'm pretty sure it's not a superdeck, looks more like a dart block, if it is there should be stamps on it, they not ge sleeves though, and for you other question any v-tec head, type-r or gsr cams, rc 750cc injectors, and a gt 30, t3/60-1, 57 trim t3/t04, you'll be able to make 350whp on any one of these turbos on low boost, and still be able to turn it up when you get bored cuz you will...

401B18TEG

any question is there metal chipping off in the second picture. i will ask him if there anything stamp on it. and he said there a GE crank but i will look at it more. If it is i probolly swap it off for a gsr crank.


Modified by 401B18TEG at 3:23 AM 12/20/2007

Semnos

It's a Dart block, and I'm pretty sure all the debree is left from the headgasket.
GE doesn't make cranks nor do they make rods.
It probably has an Eagle crank with Eagle rods.

401B18TEG

he said that GE build it from him. and he said everything new so there shouldnt be any debree on the top. still wondering.

CerealKiller

Yeah, I know for sure that is not a GE built block. I'm sorry to tell you,but you got scamed. Try to contact the person who sold it to you. Good luck.

CUTTERSPOOL

no, it not mines it my friend and he want to sell it to me.

Schister66

There are one of two things going on here:

1. Your "friend" is trying to rip you off
2. Your friend has no idea what is done to this shortblock and is reciting things he's heard elsewhere.

Either way, i would be weary of this setup. If you can see it in person, that would make it better, but dont rush into anything.

hellakapps

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1. Your "friend" is trying to rip you off
2. Your friend has no idea what is done to this shortblock and is reciting things he's heard elsewhere.

Either way, i would be weary of this setup. If you can see it in person, that would make it better, but dont rush into anything. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i couldn't agree more if you have that much in to a short block you should know what it is.....i wouldn't buy anything from somebody that is talkin nothing but

hellakapps

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it not new then metal doesn't flake like that, it's got to be gasket

Schister66

if you can get digital pictures of it, have the owner of the block use the Macro setting on his camera to get close-ups of the debris on the block. Be sure its headgasket material and not something worse like metal fracture.

Mikey3000

is it just me or does this block look real shitty? that definitely looks like the aluminum is chipping away on the surface but its weird that it would be black. and the sleeves don't look evenly spaced. i'd stay away from that block, looks like trouble.

Boosted_B_Series

looks like a dart to me. you will hit 350 with ease all day long on a very low boost setting. You setup is quite the over kill for only 350 hp when its capable of double that easy.

NeKe1point0

has anyone else noticed whats goin on with cylinder num 2 on the backside of the block ? it looks as if the guard was measured once and drilled twice ? it looks to be the same on num 4 too. not a precision made piece imo.

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im highly doubting this block guard is made by GE. new should at lease LOOK new ! the top of the block should look shiney and "new". it should be smooth and clean for a good seal with the head gasket. def not chipping as seen above. on top of all that who really knows who assembled this thing. hell on one hand it could be a ticking time bomb while on the other it could be a great piece. id play it safe and stick with ur ls/vtec. id stay away from this block and let someone else blow it up.

agrn93ls

that deck looks like ****. and i have yet to hear of GE making rods or cranks. I would not use anything but a OE honda crank. be weary of this one, im no expert on sleeving but it just dosen't look quite right, especially the deck, looks f'ed or unfinished.