gettin' tuned...
the price increase isn't anything huge. just an adjustment neptuners agreed upon because a majority of us don't personally own dynos, and we need to cover our cost in renting the machine
well, i can't street tune WOT because i cannot afford to lose my license, or have the liability associated with being in the car if anything happens. our shop is in a small town and being on bad terms with the police isn't an option. sorry.
Thanks for the kind words SEFIxCivic...how is the EG coming along...good things I hope.
I would like to add to this thread also....
We tune With Crome..... ( uberdata is too buggy )
The cars that we have tuned with crome have done very well and we have seen great power gains by using crome, both N/A and FI.
The advantage you gain with crome over the old inexpensive way of tuning turbo cars is......and by old I mean a FMU, Missing Link or Fish Tank Valves ( I don't think anything from a fish tank belongs on an engine int he first place ), stock injectors, VAFC or AFC hack and a stock ECU.
With crome you eliminate the FMU, Missing Link, VAFC or AFC.
You only need the proper size injectors, a chipped ECU, and a pressure regulator for those tuning for 4-10lbs
for those tuning for 11lbs and up will just need to install a 2 or 3 bar map sensor and the proper size injectors.
Tuned this way you are using a boosted Map through the ECU and not a N/A Map with the timing too advanced. Yes the Hack will make more power in some situations....Will it be reliable and last, the answer we have come to is No.....it will take its toll on the engine.
With Rom-Tuning ( crome or Neptune ) you will gain reliability as well as great power gains....through the entire power band....not just peak numbers but great mid range as well.
Im not going to get on here and say that Rom-Tuning is going to be the best thing for everyone. It is just a less expensive alternative for the street car that doest want to spend money on a full stand alone system or for a stand alone system that is not need for a street car setup.
We Rom-Tune for $260.00, chipping for the ECU is extra......The dyno we use is a dynojet 248x and it belongs to CTR Products of San Jose.
This price may vary if owner of dyno raises or lowers price of dyno time per hour.
I will vouch for RCrew as well, They are a great bunch of guys and a great shop!
I will see if I can get Brandon to add to this thread aswell.....He is amazing to watch when it comes to tuning!
Modified by RedZone at 12:27 PM 3/11/2005
I would like to add to this thread also....
We tune With Crome..... ( uberdata is too buggy )
The cars that we have tuned with crome have done very well and we have seen great power gains by using crome, both N/A and FI.
The advantage you gain with crome over the old inexpensive way of tuning turbo cars is......and by old I mean a FMU, Missing Link or Fish Tank Valves ( I don't think anything from a fish tank belongs on an engine int he first place ), stock injectors, VAFC or AFC hack and a stock ECU.
With crome you eliminate the FMU, Missing Link, VAFC or AFC.
You only need the proper size injectors, a chipped ECU, and a pressure regulator for those tuning for 4-10lbs
for those tuning for 11lbs and up will just need to install a 2 or 3 bar map sensor and the proper size injectors.
Tuned this way you are using a boosted Map through the ECU and not a N/A Map with the timing too advanced. Yes the Hack will make more power in some situations....Will it be reliable and last, the answer we have come to is No.....it will take its toll on the engine.
With Rom-Tuning ( crome or Neptune ) you will gain reliability as well as great power gains....through the entire power band....not just peak numbers but great mid range as well.
Im not going to get on here and say that Rom-Tuning is going to be the best thing for everyone. It is just a less expensive alternative for the street car that doest want to spend money on a full stand alone system or for a stand alone system that is not need for a street car setup.
We Rom-Tune for $260.00, chipping for the ECU is extra......The dyno we use is a dynojet 248x and it belongs to CTR Products of San Jose.
This price may vary if owner of dyno raises or lowers price of dyno time per hour.
I will vouch for RCrew as well, They are a great bunch of guys and a great shop!
I will see if I can get Brandon to add to this thread aswell.....He is amazing to watch when it comes to tuning!
Modified by RedZone at 12:27 PM 3/11/2005
soooo since your using a dynojet... may i ask how you tune timing in various load cells since you can't hold the dyno at a steady rpm???
mash it on the dyno and hope it lands in one of the cells your tuning???? then adjust timing and mash it again? over and over????
mash it on the dyno and hope it lands in one of the cells your tuning???? then adjust timing and mash it again? over and over????
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why dont more ppl street tune?</TD></TR></TABLE>
because maybe timing can't be truely tuned properly on the street? but, rather run through a guess and check and hope it makes power and doesn't blow method??
experience does help in street tuning timing, but there is still no true solid way to street tune timing.... unless done on a dyno
because maybe timing can't be truely tuned properly on the street? but, rather run through a guess and check and hope it makes power and doesn't blow method??
experience does help in street tuning timing, but there is still no true solid way to street tune timing.... unless done on a dyno
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LazyNip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">soooo since your using a dynojet... may i ask how you tune timing in various load cells since you can't hold the dyno at a steady rpm???
mash it on the dyno and hope it lands in one of the cells your tuning???? then adjust timing and mash it again? over and over????</TD></TR></TABLE>
would like to know also
mash it on the dyno and hope it lands in one of the cells your tuning???? then adjust timing and mash it again? over and over????</TD></TR></TABLE>
would like to know also
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LazyNip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">soooo since your using a dynojet... may i ask how you tune timing in various load cells since you can't hold the dyno at a steady rpm???
mash it on the dyno and hope it lands in one of the cells your tuning???? then adjust timing and mash it again? over and over????</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im going to have brandon answer this one.....Ill try and get him on here tonight...he can best describe and answer your question.....
I would'nt explain it as well.
I do know that when tuning you do not land on one paticular cell...it lands on 4 and averages them out.....but like I said Brandon can best explain better then I can, so I'll see what I can do to get him on.
mash it on the dyno and hope it lands in one of the cells your tuning???? then adjust timing and mash it again? over and over????</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im going to have brandon answer this one.....Ill try and get him on here tonight...he can best describe and answer your question.....
I would'nt explain it as well.
I do know that when tuning you do not land on one paticular cell...it lands on 4 and averages them out.....but like I said Brandon can best explain better then I can, so I'll see what I can do to get him on.
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