PM-Performance

Well im getitng ready to do the turbo in about 2 weeksm but i dunno what i wanna do
I dont knwo if i wanna get the headgasket to lower the compression and be able to boost it higher?
Or just leave the compression the way it is until i have money to do the internals and just boost less?
what would you guys do and consider a safer/ more power yielding step?
If i do the internals they [prob wont get done for about a year or so. this damn turbo set up got me going broke , gotta pay off some bills before i pump any more money into the car

thanks ahead of time

MayhemSi

I'm not a big fan of thicker headgaskets simply because to me it seems like you are increasing the weak surface area on the inside of the cylinders between the head and the block and at the same time trying to raise your cylinder pressure with the turbo. A better investment IMO is a block guard, but let some of the bigger boostheads give their opinion, too.

PM-Performance

hmmmm , deff something to think about
Bump whats everyone else think ?
what block gaurd would fit good ?
I can put it in with the block still in the car right? just [pop the head off and tap that sucker in ?
My firned had an old race engineering one and said he had to modify it like a **** to get it to fit.
know of any good ones that will drop in ? will that make me much safer even in my situation with my high comrpession?

MayhemSi

I ran a stock motor with a custom turbo setup on it with an STR blockgaurd that I didn't have really any problems putting in for about 24K miles and the only reason it stopped is that the car was stolen.

rOby

does the inlinePro gasket cost around 350?! id get a cometic if i was you for that price. definately block guard it..not a nuformz but a golden eagle or ac autotecninc, or str...try to get the ones like the tangs on the ge sleeves! id weld that sucker in to so its not shiftn arnd and moving. ur cr isnt really that high, regardless of what anyone says, i rather tune it then lower the cr. i think ull be happier w/ a higher cr and less boost. JUST IMHO.
good luck man
roby

PM-Performance

well ertial on thme is $299, but i get them cheaper as a dealer of course.
id get that over the cosmetic though .
fuggit i think ill just keep it the way it is until i have money to rebuild the whoel thine
i hear block gaurd warp the sleeves and have cooling probs?
true?

BoM

keep the boost low 8lbs. until ur built. do it right, do it once.
no need to open the motor.

PM-Performance

i was thinking of tuning for 8psi for the street and 10 psi for the track
I have a hondata 4b, so i should be able to do a bad asstune job on it with help of a good tuner .
you think that sounds reasonable ?
since i dont haev a boost controller yet , ill be using the .45 bar spring in my WG so im limited to what 7psi for now ?

swrdply400mrelay

I've had a blockguard for a year with no cooling probs. Boost is 5.5psi daily, 8psi hi boost. I've accidentally boosted to 14psi 6-7 times and nothing happened, thankfully. I say forget the headgasket and save up for your internals, but I don't know how hard you are on your car daily either. BTW, were you the one that got sent that prelude turbo kit? Did you get it sold?

PM-Performance

na i got sent the GSR piping from Vaprotrial . I gfot my moeny back and sening him the piping back .

Im pretty hard on my car. . .its tough to not be though. i kno you guys nwo the feeling .

MayhemSi

It used to be. I've found the faster my car gets, the nicer i treat it because when it breaks now, it BREAKS (for example my current melted endyne rollerwave pistons). Not to mention, you learn you don't have to prove anything any more becuase you KNOW you are faster then pretty much any other ricer that pulls up next to you.

highbrid

personally i wouldnt spend $300 on a headgasket. Spend 70 on a stock one and then use the extra money to save for lower compression pistons.

PM-Performance

wel i already am , but the turbo will lock it down for sure

camp1320.com

ask the Hondasaver guys ..!! they get COMETIC for like $80 or something.. i heard that inline gets theres from COMETIC.?? just a rumor.any comments..?

PM-Performance

they do , i talked to them and they told me I thin it was John that said that

Andrew 825SM

Get the headgasket...I've been running 10 psi now on the inlinepro headgasket for 4 months now with no problems at all. Sometimes I even run 14 psi for fun and nothing happens. It's all in the tuning bro. If you tune it right, you will have no problems. BTW my fuel setup is msd inline, walbro 255lph hp, 450cc, 4:1 fmu and vafc to lean out the fuel.

PM-Performance

i got rc 550's , hondata 4b, aem rail and fpr and walbro 255 high pressure

Andrew 825SM

yea you will definately have no problems if you can get it tuned correctly. I recall people running 20-22 lbs on race gas with the headgasket and camgears only with stock headstuds and 11-12 lbs on the street!

rOby

thats why i just told ya not to get a nuformz! the ge, ac auto technic ..they all have tangs i believe to allow the coolant to pass...U wont overheat. if u do get a nufromz, get a machine shop to try to cut the slits to match coolant passages in the head. weld it in and boost away batman. id get a cometic if ud want to lower cr, fawk spendn anywhere over 200 for a HG!!!! think clearly, if cometic makes inlinePRO's gasket, dont ya think u could get cometic to make u a similar gasket for probably under a 100 bux?

PM-Performance

yea but with the shiity cast type R pistons? im just worried about making some goos safe hp . i wouod love to make at least 300 or so on stock internals amybe a few more

Andrew 825SM

Cometic does not make inlinepro's headgasket...inlinepro does their own work. Plus I've heard people have had bad experiences with cometic gasket. Just spend the extra money for the inline pro headgasket. Its def. worth it!

DR. ON POINT

knowa couple people running high 10's low 11's with stock blocks and a hedgasket

swrdply400mrelay

I have a Nuformz blockguard and they have water holes.

PM-Performance

how did nuforms fit? we had a race eng one and it fit like **** , we had to mess with it to omuch

MayhemSi

Part of the fit I'm sure has to do alot with the condition of the block. I'm sure they all fit perfect in a brand new block. My str required a little bit of adjustment, but definitely not a whole lote and I have been satisfied it even though it is a bit redundant since I'm sleeved as well.