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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 06:50 AM
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Hey everyone im finally going to buy everything to complete my d16 vitara build, i have a brand new garrett 60-1 .63 stg 3 wheel but i want to know if the precision 6262 would be better. The car will be 90% 1/4 mile track car.

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Goin for around 500 which turbo should give better powerband, 60-1 compressor surge at high boost?
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Yes. I would go for the 62mm with the better exhaust wheel than what you have, especially going for the 500whp mark. The 60-1 is a great turbo but there are 2 issues with the model you particularly have. 1) the turbine wheel you're using will be horribly inefficient at that point, and 2) the 60-1 will start to surge at over 26psi of boost pressure, which is about what it takes to get to about 500whp. There are other choices other than just the 6262, but on H-T it is the new most popular application.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 07:25 AM
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Yes. I would go for the 62mm with the better exhaust wheel than what you have, especially going for the 500whp mark. The 60-1 is a great turbo but there are 2 issues with the model you particularly have. 1) the turbine wheel you're using will be horribly inefficient at that point, and 2) the 60-1 will start to surge at over 26psi of boost pressure, which is about what it takes to get to about 500whp. There are other choices other than just the 6262, but on H-T it is the new most popular application.
For the 6262 what size? my other question my main goal is 10's so powerband will be important(500hp just sounds good for a 10) will the 6262 come on later single cam trans don't have tighest gears and don't want to spend money on trans yet. What other turbos do you think would work?
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Yes. I would go for the 62mm with the better exhaust wheel than what you have, especially going for the 500whp mark. The 60-1 is a great turbo but there are 2 issues with the model you particularly have. 1) the turbine wheel you're using will be horribly inefficient at that point, and 2) the 60-1 will start to surge at over 26psi of boost pressure, which is about what it takes to get to about 500whp. There are other choices other than just the 6262, but on H-T it is the new most popular application.
Your posts amaze me lol. I just can't get my head round how you know so much and can remember it all. Fair play though man, your mind is like a forced induction encyclopedia and the best thing is your always willing to share your knowledge to help other....
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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Precision 6262 comes in only one "size" (in terms of compressor and exhaust wheel combination), the only differences being housing options, but I'll pm you the alternatives. Going 500whp on any combination is going to be "laggy" on a d-series engine for any street use, unless a significant amount of cylinder head work has been performed. Transmission gearing for the use of the car will be fine as it is, but if you need to make any adjustments, I suggest checking out MFactory for their gearing sets and go for shorter gearing instead of longer gearing so that you can keep your acceleration rate. If you don't have the funds for it now, plan on it later when you decide to use a limited slip differential. It will save you time in the long run.

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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Precision 6262 comes in only one "size" (in terms of compressor and exhaust wheel combination), the only differences being housing options, but I'll pm you the alternatives. Going 500whp on any combination is going to be "laggy" on a d-series engine for any street use, unless a significant amount of cylinder head work has been performed. Transmission gearing for the use of the car will be fine as it is, but if you need to make any adjustments, I suggest checking out MFactory for their gearing sets and go for shorter gearing instead of longer gearing so that you can keep your acceleration rate. If you don't have the funds for it now, plan on it later when you decide to use a limited slip differential. It will save you time in the long run.

Thanks for the Kudos. As always, much obliged
Thanks your the man now i just need time to go over the pm and see what works the best. Oh and thanks for not answering my question with a simple "search" i wouldve never found what u sent.
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
Yes. I would go for the 62mm with the better exhaust wheel than what you have, especially going for the 500whp mark. The 60-1 is a great turbo but there are 2 issues with the model you particularly have. 1) the turbine wheel you're using will be horribly inefficient at that point, and 2) the 60-1 will start to surge at over 26psi of boost pressure, which is about what it takes to get to about 500whp. There are other choices other than just the 6262, but on H-T it is the new most popular application.
Are you referring to the 6265 Billet when you say "better exhaust wheel?" I would stick to the 6262 Billet as well or even go smaller for a D-series such as the 6062 Billet. As you mentioned, the 60-1 will run out of steam at the mid-20psi level and the Precision Billet turbos are still making power at 35+psi.

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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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Are you referring to the 6265 Billet when you say "better exhaust wheel?" I would stick to the 6262 Billet as well or even go smaller for a D-series such as the 6062 Billet. As you mentioned, the 60-1 will run out of steam at the mid-20psi level and the Precision Billet turbos are still making power at 35+psi.

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No. I'm comparing the exhaust wheel from something like the one from the 6262 with his current Stage III 60-1. You're simply repeating what I'm saying using different verbage
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:25 AM
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I'm glad I read this cause I was about to use a 60-1 on my sleeved GSR build and was looking to try for about 25-30 psi. was looking for about 500ish whp on pump gas and of course alot more on c-16. will be looking at the 6262 alot closer now...
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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I had the 60-1... hated it. I'm going with a BB 62/65 this year. I've done alot of reading and the 6262 will make 500 on pump easily.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by quickhondaz
I'm glad I read this cause I was about to use a 60-1 on my sleeved GSR build and was looking to try for about 25-30 psi. was looking for about 500ish whp on pump gas and of course alot more on c-16. will be looking at the 6262 alot closer now...

Maybe you should look into 6265 sleeved b series can take a beating 6262 might max out around 650. What if yoh want more later?
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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Maybe you should look into 6265 sleeved b series can take a beating 6262 might max out around 650. What if yoh want more later?
it may but this is gonna be a daily driver/drag/autocross car. I would be happy with 650whp but anymore than that and it will not be daily driveable, which was the point in building it in the first place...
all I need is something with good response, descent power and efficiency, with good reliability. the 6262 is starting to look better even if it is a little higher priced than the 60-1. besides, I get almost all of my parts through James at IPG so I'm sure I will get a damn good deal on it from him anyway...
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Gotcha sounds like a fun dd.lol. i have a brand new 60-1 to sell now shouldve done my homework before i bought it. Ill sell it to someone with an srt4 haha.
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DA 4 Lyfe
I had the 60-1... hated it. I'm going with a BB 62/65 this year. I've done alot of reading and the 6262 will make 500 on pump easily.
really? i had a 62-1 turbonetics .63 hot and it spooled very late....great up top though it didnt come in till like 6500 rpm... i bought a 60-1 for like $100 and put it on hopefully i can still have fun with it for now until i get my 6262 in April....
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No. I'm comparing the exhaust wheel from something like the one from the 6262 with his current Stage III 60-1. You're simply repeating what I'm saying using different verbage
Yes I am agreeing with your recommendation, but not quite repeating. I was adding a possible recommendation to try a slightly smaller Billet wheel turbo since it's a single cam. A 5857, 6057, or 6062 may all be excellent choices for someone who wants better response out of their single cam 1.5L. I am surprised so many guys want to run such a large turbo for such a small displacement motor.

Originally Posted by quickhondaz
I'm glad I read this cause I was about to use a 60-1 on my sleeved GSR build and was looking to try for about 25-30 psi. was looking for about 500ish whp on pump gas and of course alot more on c-16. will be looking at the 6262 alot closer now...
Certainly a 6062 or 6262 Billet is right up your alley. A 60-1 will be way out of steam at 30psi.

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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Would a 6062 take me to 600 if i was tempted to really push the limits if so would this turbo cam combo make a better 1/4 mile powerband. I know im asking for almost impossible info. But what are your thoughts. I dont want to fall out of powerband after shifts or limit top end either? I seen on d16 6262 dynograph wasnt to bad.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 02:35 PM
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For starters, unless u found one used. The 60mm compressor wheel has been discontinued. So you cannot buy it anymore. Whether u have a 6062 or a 6262, neither is gonna spool any difference that is noticable. Your still having to turn over a 62mm exhaust wheel no matter what is attached to it on the other side. Just because u switch it up to some oblong combination doesnt mean its gonna be more effiecient. They discontinued the 60mm wheel becasue the 58mm stuff was making the same ammount of power. Get the 6262 and be done with it. Theres a reason why its as popular as it is.
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Originally Posted by prelude760
Yes I am agreeing with your recommendation, but not quite repeating. I was adding a possible recommendation to try a slightly smaller Billet wheel turbo since it's a single cam. A 5857, 6057, or 6062 may all be excellent choices for someone who wants better response out of their single cam 1.5L. I am surprised so many guys want to run such a large turbo for such a small displacement motor.
Oh, no doubt about it. I'm simply going by the person's power output goals, especially for a D-series engine. I completely agree that I don't expect it to be any kind of setup that is responsive by any means on the street, and still don't understand the reasoning behind using these huge applications on Single Cams for the purpose they think would work. However, it seems that the current trend is that many people "want to be different" by trying to show that a single cam can make peak power, even if it doesn't make sense logically for their intended purpose. (Like asking for 600whp and at the same time want to be streetable). But to each their own.
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(Like asking for 600whp and at the same time want to be streetable)

quote of the year and nothing is more true than that lol

shodan has it, and yall want it its information through experience as well as education.
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Oh, no doubt about it. I'm simply going by the person's power output goals, especially for a D-series engine. I completely agree that I don't expect it to be any kind of setup that is responsive by any means on the street, and still don't understand the reasoning behind using these huge applications on Single Cams for the purpose they think would work. However, it seems that the current trend is that many people "want to be different" by trying to show that a single cam can make peak power, even if it doesn't make sense logically for their intended purpose. (Like asking for 600whp and at the same time want to be streetable). But to each their own.
I first want to genuinely thank you i am selling my 60-1 because of your confirmation of compressor surge at high psi. Secondly i stated in this post this car will be 90% track car not a streetcar i may drive it to work once or go to a local meet on sat. Nite. But never said the words streetcar once! My ultimate goal in this post was opinion for best turbo for hp and powerband for 1/4 mile. Im not asking about a gt42 i know 6262 is big but what other turbo would get a d16 low 10's??? Im not being stupid just dont want to buy another turbo that wont get me where i want to go? Again please understand (shodan) im only asking because from your reputation and the pm you sent you know turbos.
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