fully built gsr "nitrous????"
11-29-2006, 05:26 PM
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fully built gsr "nitrous????"
right now i have an all motor gsr with darton sleeves 2.0
12.5:1 cr pistons
LS crank and rods
the head is port and polished
skunk2 stage 2 cams
and skunk2 springs and retainers
before i finish putting it together i was wondering if couldnt get away with nitrous???
if so what are your suggestions???
nitrous is something im not too familiar with so the more info the better
12.5:1 cr pistons
LS crank and rods
the head is port and polished
skunk2 stage 2 cams
and skunk2 springs and retainers
before i finish putting it together i was wondering if couldnt get away with nitrous???
if so what are your suggestions???
nitrous is something im not too familiar with so the more info the better
11-29-2006, 08:26 PM
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Re: fully built gsr "nitrous????" (cubish)
on your 450hp nitrous street car what set up are you running? kit? motor mods? i to am looking for a nitrous kit right now. thinking of getting a zex dry kit on my built b16. any info?
11-29-2006, 08:29 PM
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Add 2 step colder plugs, retard the timing 2-4 degrees, and run a 65 shot. Monitor your ignition, EGT, and fuel pressure. If it all checks out, bump it up to a 75 shot. I wouldn't go past that with 12.5:1 comp. You should use the highest octane you can tune with on that setup.
11-29-2006, 08:37 PM
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i have eagle rods and weisco forged nitrous pistons in my bottom end. my compression is around 10:8:1 maybe a little higher. the pistons are 81.5mm bore. what shot/how much hp are sleeves bored that much good for?
11-29-2006, 08:42 PM
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Look at my previous post.. do the same thing. You could probably bump it up to 100 though. I never really recommend bumping past 100 unless you build for nitrous.
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11-30-2006, 09:02 AM
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stupid question i know... but isnt a sleeved motor already mostly built for nitrous, does the high compression affect the motor as a turbo or supercharger would??? id love to try somthing new but i do not want to throw thousands of dollars away because i got power happy
11-30-2006, 05:49 PM
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if you do decide to use nitrous with your high compression i would def use a direct port kit, or at least a wet shot. If I were you i would stay away from the dry kit. With the wet kit you will have less chance of detonation 
11-30-2006, 06:38 PM
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Re: (petty$rep)
the engines been sleeved out to a 2.0 liter with darton sleeves. and running the compression im running can i feel safe running 100 shot direct port
12-01-2006, 09:12 PM
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Re: (oianarchy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oianarchy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the engines been sleeved out to a 2.0 liter with darton sleeves. and running the compression im running can i feel safe running 100 shot direct port</TD></TR></TABLE>
i personally would not feel safe running a 100 shot with that much compression (no matter what kind of nitrous kit: wet, dry, direct port). That is, i would not feel safe with pump gas, race gas i would say yes you would be safe; if this is your DD then im gonna have to say stay away from the nitrous with your current high compression ratio.
i personally would not feel safe running a 100 shot with that much compression (no matter what kind of nitrous kit: wet, dry, direct port). That is, i would not feel safe with pump gas, race gas i would say yes you would be safe; if this is your DD then im gonna have to say stay away from the nitrous with your current high compression ratio.
12-01-2006, 10:33 PM
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Re: (petty$rep)
The day before yasterday, I tried two stage on my bone stock B20/vtec.
first stage (150 shot) and the second stage (50 shot) but the clutch fucked up on me
, its 4 pad mipa clutch and with the sec stage convert to to 1 pad 
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I am tuned with BRE (obd0 rom editor) and i am using torco 110.
first stage (150 shot) and the second stage (50 shot) but the clutch fucked up on me
, its 4 pad mipa clutch and with the sec stage convert to to 1 pad .I am tuned with BRE (obd0 rom editor) and i am using torco 110.
12-02-2006, 10:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slo_crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i always thought high compression loves nitrous.? iono .. i know my b16 did.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well what exactly does nitrous do?????? it helps to carry more air into each cylinder which causes more chance of detonation UNLESS you also add extra fuel. In the end if you have an EXCELLENT TUNE and use RACE GAS you should be okay. like i said before, i would not do this to my daily driver.
well what exactly does nitrous do?????? it helps to carry more air into each cylinder which causes more chance of detonation UNLESS you also add extra fuel. In the end if you have an EXCELLENT TUNE and use RACE GAS you should be okay. like i said before, i would not do this to my daily driver.
12-02-2006, 07:28 PM
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Re: (petty$rep)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by petty$rep »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well what exactly does nitrous do?????? it helps to carry more air into each cylinder which causes more chance of detonation UNLESS you also add extra fuel. In the end if you have an EXCELLENT TUNE and use RACE GAS you should be okay. like i said before, i would not do this to my daily driver.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i definitly without a doubt do not want this to be a daily driver. However id like it to see pavement in good weather. If i cut back maybe 50-75 shot am i significantly safer. the last thing i want to do is get greedy and loose a brand new fully built GSR
well what exactly does nitrous do?????? it helps to carry more air into each cylinder which causes more chance of detonation UNLESS you also add extra fuel. In the end if you have an EXCELLENT TUNE and use RACE GAS you should be okay. like i said before, i would not do this to my daily driver.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i definitly without a doubt do not want this to be a daily driver. However id like it to see pavement in good weather. If i cut back maybe 50-75 shot am i significantly safer. the last thing i want to do is get greedy and loose a brand new fully built GSR
12-02-2006, 07:52 PM
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I WANT 2 GO BIG ON NITROUS!!!!!!!!!! i want to know what do i change or do to Use as much NITROUS as i can On Race Gas on the Track on my All motor Setup!!!!!!!!
B20b block Stock Sleeves Block Guard 84.5mm Arias 11:8:1 Piston
Rods are Pinned (stock)
Type R water/Oil Pump
Ctr Pully
Custom Head Gasket for High Compression
B16 Head Ported/Polish Full Omni Valvetrain
Milled HEAD 440Injectors
Jun 3's or Have Custom DH RACING CAMS
Rage Header 2.0 Big Tube
Want to Know what Spark Plugs to run? Wat to Change !!!!
Wats biggest i can go On Squeez?
What System To BUY???????????
12-03-2006, 11:59 AM
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Re: Re: (oianarchy)
no need to bump. there is already a huge thread on all this info. read the whole thing and u will learn a lot
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1460144
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1460144
12-03-2006, 12:05 PM
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Re: (cubish)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cubish »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you wanna go big get rid of the stock rods</TD></TR></TABLE>
12-03-2006, 07:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oianarchy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i definitly without a doubt do not want this to be a daily driver. However id like it to see pavement in good weather. If i cut back maybe 50-75 shot am i significantly safer. the last thing i want to do is get greedy and loose a brand new fully built GSR </TD></TR></TABLE>
if this were my fully built GSR motor i would first lower the compression to about 11.8. Then I would feel a lot safer about running a bigger shot of nitrous. Of course the reliablity still comes down to race gas and TUNE.
however, since this is not your daily driver, i'd say keep the 12.5 cr, start with a small shot of nitrous (35 shot) and tune it all on race gas
i definitly without a doubt do not want this to be a daily driver. However id like it to see pavement in good weather. If i cut back maybe 50-75 shot am i significantly safer. the last thing i want to do is get greedy and loose a brand new fully built GSR </TD></TR></TABLE>
if this were my fully built GSR motor i would first lower the compression to about 11.8. Then I would feel a lot safer about running a bigger shot of nitrous. Of course the reliablity still comes down to race gas and TUNE.
however, since this is not your daily driver, i'd say keep the 12.5 cr, start with a small shot of nitrous (35 shot) and tune it all on race gas