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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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Ok, here's the story. I have a 255lph Walbro intank that has been in sevice less than a year and was working fine.

I just swapped in a B18B and also converted to OBD 1 and threw a Hondata S200 in there.

I ordered a new chip w/basemap for my setup from SGT.

Using starter fluid it will run for a few seconds, but it's not getting fuel (lines are empty when I remove them). I also noticed today the pump is not priming before startup.

I think I've run thru every troubleshooting step in the Helms and can't seem to locate the problem.

Replaced walbro w/stock, same thing no worky.

Tested for voltage and gnd at the pump connector, all is good there.

Tested the relay, all is good there.

Wiring also looks good.

Anybody have any ideas?

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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Default Re: Fuel pump nightmare (Hatchblack)

so u got power? and the pump is good? but it wont prime. and the fuel lines are empty.

hummmmmm
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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Yeah...f'n crazy man. I'ma go f with it some more, but it's getting chilly out. Have to wear TWO sweatshirts now that it's back together and I pushed it out of the garage
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Fuel pump nightmare (Hatchblack)

i hate to be captain obvious, but does it have fuel?

add a gallon or two to make sure
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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Default Re: Fuel pump nightmare (lazerus)

That was my first thought....gauge said full and I was thinking bs, but when I pulled the pump sure enough, almost overflowing. DAMNIT.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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u did hook up the fuel lines to the pump right
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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Yeah, but it's somthing electrical...the pump isn't coming on for some reason. I hope there's not anything wrong with the ECU. I bought it with the Hondata second hand but new. I know the guy wouldn't have tried to jack me either so if it is bad he wouldn't have known. DAMNIT again.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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humm, if u narrow it down to the ecu i will let u plug in mine.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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it is very easy also to mix up the fuel return and the fuel supply line. check that as well ...
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Fuel pump nightmare (vactor)

mine is not priming occasionally(walbro 255lph). i have to pump the gas while trying to start it and it will prime and start pumping.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Fuel pump nightmare (Hatchblack)

my friend had the same problem with his stock fuel pump in his accord. Honda determined it was some fuel pump relay. He said it was like 40 bucks and seem to do the trick. If that helps any.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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Default Re: Fuel pump nightmare (Big Josh)

hopefully this might help somebody in the future...i'm thinking maybe i wasn't getting a clean contact at the pump or maybe it stuck after sitting up for like 4 months. I got back there and hooked it up to straight power and it came on so I let it run for about 15 seconds.


bwaaaaaaaaaaaa is what my neighbors heard at 11 pm after that

it's alive...it's aliiiiiive!!!
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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Default Re: Fuel pump nightmare (Hatchblack)

whoever said the fuel pump relay is probably right. I'd be checking that out, I've had two go over the years.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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I had actually checked it out per the Helms already. Read the above post to find the strange solution I stumbled upon.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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I guess it needed a push start..hehe
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 12:14 AM
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did pushing the gas while starting it do it?
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 12:19 AM
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did pushing the gas while starting it do it?
haha
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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What are the signs of the fuel pump relay going bad? I think my car is starting to do the same. However, I do hear a relay "click" sound when I turn my car in the "on" postion. Is the "click" sound coming from that fuel pump relay? or ECU?
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 02:07 AM
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Good find Hatchblack, sometimes it is those obvious things that are confusing. Good Info!
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 06:32 AM
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Check your main relay
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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Check your main relay
I agree ... i had the same problem in my Integra and I used the mainrelay out of an Accord (cause they are all the same) and it worked.
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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Default Re: Fuel pump nightmare (Nuts&Bolts)

yeah I thought I killed a pump in my prelude but really it was a main relay... replaced it and zoom zoom.
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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The problem was already fixed.
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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[rambo]nothing is over!![/rambo]
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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I think they missed that post Art

LOL!! You have a 98% rating you suck!!!
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