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Old 04-13-2003, 10:16 AM
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well yesteday i went up to the track and blew one of my rubber conections on the first run. last weekend my charge pipes were leaking like crazy so i wouldn;t boost more than 5psi. this week the one rubber connection blew and i was running 2.5psi. finaly i got home and bought a 2inch diameter radiator hose to use from the turbo to my first pipe and its been holding up great and im finaly boosting a real 10psi in every gear instead of 10psi in only 4th or 5 th.

im debating on weather or not to go back up to the track again and try and get some good times. best time so far 16.0 but it was my first time at the track it was freazing cold and damp and i only had 5psi and a leaking system. anyone had luck with the radiator hoses over the rubber hoses from lowes?

what times are u guys running at about 10psi?

i have a t3 on a b16a with lsd, running dsm450s vafc and a btm for ignition. also if i go again ill be running open dp. stock mid pipe sucks.
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Yeah, In two spots where I did not have any more nice silicone hoses I used radiator hose. It was initially a temporary solution but sure enough 1 year later they are still there. Seem to work as well as the real silicone ones, never leak, have never gave me any problems!
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13's shouldnt you run faster then that all motor already? soemthing seems wrong
Old 04-13-2003, 12:31 PM
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once that leak is fixed you should notice a difference. If there is a leak 5 psi wont feel like 5 psi. When I had leaks in my turbo si it would be slower than stock.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by romeo619romeo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">13's shouldnt you run faster then that all motor already? soemthing seems wrong</TD></TR></TABLE>

13's with a b16a in a 91 teg....i don't think so, try more like low 15's maybe a high 14 with a good driver..
Old 04-13-2003, 04:18 PM
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haha the 13s in my sig was ganna be off of gsr cams 3inch exhaust front mount intercooler on 12psi. running high octain gas and on some nice drag radials with a 6puck clutch. i have no money for this so im trying to get a good time and the turn the car back to n/a and sell it sell the turbokit and build a 12secnd b18b civic sedan. sleeper running 12psi daily and 18psi track. my teg weighs to much to be running 13s at 10psi i should be around low 14s at 12 maybe a 14.0 on good tires as of now running 5-7 with a leak 16.0 slower than if i was n/a

my turbo kit is turning into an expencive noise maker
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well the radiator hose if holding great but my system won;t hold more than 7psi any sujestions? im going to buy a cap and check the chrarge pipes and then that will determine weather my pipes are still leaking or if my intake mani is leaking. also what are u guys running in the 1/4 a around 10psi?

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What are the specs on your turbo? I have a feeling that it's not the charge pipes.
i had a t-3 on my b16a for a while and boost would drop off above 5k rpm (from 7psi down to 4-5psi) because it was just to small and wouldn't flow enough for that engine. I swapped in a bigger snail and now it holds happy at 9psi
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42 compressor side 48 hot.

i think the fact that my system isn;t holding more than 7.5 psi is the main factor right now but if i can keep the car running good for a week and keep it running good at the track maybe i can get into the 14s. would running open dp be very benifical?

thanks for all the feedback already.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmcc72 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">42 compressor side 48 hot.

i think the fact that my system isn;t holding more than 7.5 psi is the main factor right now but if i can keep the car running good for a week and keep it running good at the track maybe i can get into the 14s. would running open dp be very benifical?

thanks for all the feedback already. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That is the same turbo i used to have. I had a boost controller to raise the boost to 10psi, but as soon as vtec switch over happens boost would drop rappidly dow to about 4-5psi. I swapped it out for a larger t3t4 and have not had any problems since. I even thought it was the wg at first, i went through 3 internal gates and even put the tial on before doing the turbo swap, nothing helped except the turbo swap.
I've read about others having the same problem with b16a's and the garrett t3 (from a saab). All i can say is thats what my experience was and a few others. my 13.7 was run using that turbo, i'm still waiting to get back to the track this year hopeing for a better time, which shouldn't be to hard because i'm making a lot more power now....
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btw i was runing mid- high 14's on 5psi of boost with that turbo in my coupe.
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yeah power seems to drop off around when vtec kicks in. would running open dp help? i have been running on the stock mid pipe 2inch. because some guy from nj hasn;t shipped out my 2.5inch. by running open dp will that keep the turbo pulling hard after 5k? also your 226whp and 160 torq what psi was that dynoed at?

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why the hateing on the G2

are the not lighter out of the factory then the g3 or at least close. so they should have the potental of a g3.

if not can you explain why?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pkripper94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why the hateing on the G2

are the not lighter out of the factory then the g3 or at least close. so they should have the potental of a g3.

if not can you explain why?</TD></TR></TABLE>

huh? im not hating on the DA i like the DA style better than the newer tegs but i was talking about selling my teg and building a civic.

finish my car sell it for 4500. sell the turbokit, 2500, buy 500dollar sedan from friend. buy 2500 b18b, pistons and rods, 1000, running 18psi in a sedan thats lighter than a DA and holds 4people and able to run mustangs and ss's for the same price as building my DA.
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:14 PM
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Yeah open down pipe will help if you can maintain 10psi of boost and you do a bit of weight redux theres no reson why you couldn't do low 13s high 12s on slicks... Traction will be the hard part
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what tires would be good? i was considering buying some steelies and buying some azenis's and running them at 14psi at the track. my 60ft times were horrable, 2.45 was the lowest at about 5-6psi. if i could have droped my reaction and 60ft times i would have been in mid 15s at 5psi. keep the coments coming.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmcc72 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah power seems to drop off around when vtec kicks in. would running open dp help? i have been running on the stock mid pipe 2inch. because some guy from nj hasn;t shipped out my 2.5inch. by running open dp will that keep the turbo pulling hard after 5k? also your 226whp and 160 torq what psi was that dynoed at?

thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep thats your problem rite there, it's the turbo not a leak. I ran 2.5'' exhaust all the way back and it didn't help any. that turbo is just to small for that engine. Honestly your better off buying a larger turbo. I liked the instant boost of the old turbo but the new one i have now feels so much nicer. There is more low end power (out of boost) because it's not as restrictive and onec boost starts coming on it pulls like crazy up to redline. My new turbo spools about 300 rpm later then the old one so it's not even really noticable. topend power is great too.
runing the open dp will help it spool sooner but the boost will still drop off because it's out of it's efficiency range and just cant flow enough for that engine.
The power in my sig was made with .65 bar (t3t40E) my old set-up made about 190whp @10psi (well 10psi up to 5k rpm then it dropped to about 4.5psi from 5k rpm -7k rpm and held steady at about 5psi from 7k to redline).
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