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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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List your setups. Don't worry, I use search all the time Archived posts too, but I would like everybody to list their current setup and how long they have been running it. So far I have most of the turbo stuff, just need to save up and get the motor built. My setup will be

D16Z6
-GE Sleeved Block
-CP pistons(9:1)
-Crower rods
-and most likely a good valve train and cam
Turbo setup
-Equal length mani
-T3/T04E 50 trim .63
-tial 38mm
-24x8x3 backdoored intercooler
Management
-Hondata s200 with boost

I'd like to run 15lbs daily on pump gas. What's your setup consist of? Thanks.

Nate
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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1990 Honda CRX-Si w/ full interior
D16a/z6
srp pistons (8.5:1)
Eagle rods
Zex 59300 cam and springs
t3 60 trim .48 turbine
Tial 38mm w/ .4bar spring
equal length SS manifold
mitsu 2G side mount
2" Ic piping into IC and 2.5" AEM Uper Ic pipe into Ls TB
1G DSM BOV
2" custom stainless downpipe into 2.5" Thermal
VAFC w/ DSM 450's
DSM fuel pump
Dyno'd at 205whp@7000rpms & 160 ftlbs of tq. on 6psi
ran a 14.43@103.95 w/ baad 60 ' on 185-60-14 Dunlop
.....thats my basic setup, more to come in the months ahead......
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RexSiT3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1990 Honda CRX-Si w/ full interior
D16a/z6
srp pistons (8.5:1)
Eagle rods
Zex 59300 cam and springs
t3 60 trim .48 turbine
Tial 38mm w/ .4bar spring
equal length SS manifold
mitsu 2G side mount
2" Ic piping into IC and 2.5" AEM Uper Ic pipe into Ls TB
1G DSM BOV
2" custom stainless downpipe into 2.5" Thermal
VAFC w/ DSM 450's
DSM fuel pump
Dyno'd at 205whp@7000rpms & 160 ftlbs of tq. on 6psi
ran a 14.43@103.95 w/ baad 60 ' on 185-60-14 Dunlop
.....thats my basic setup, more to come in the months ahead......
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Damn, 8.5:1 compression and 6psi???? What are you wasting your time for? You could easily run 15psi with that low of compression. I run 8 psi all day on a stock engine.

Pump up that boost baby!!

Randy
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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its not worth the risk of blowing my motor...its the little devil called detonation and until i get my j&s to monitor knock and control it im staying at 6psi...its safe, and is making good power right now....im not even buying a boost controller until i have my j&s so im not tempted to turn it up.....i should have it in a month or 2 and then the boost will be turned up.....until then 6psi gets the job done

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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 07:56 AM
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Running 18-19psi daily on 94 octane. Last saturday, I almost blew up the engine, wastegate hose unplugged itself. The car was freaking fast, floored it in 2, 3 and 4th then I realize I was boosting 25-28psi. Engine seems undamaged, didn't detect any detonation but it had to be some. No misfire either. EGT was a little above 1700. Ho yeah, stock sleeves.

I'm guessing I'm making around 340whp @ 19psi but I'm must get back on a dyno. I'll try again 25psi later this year but this time, I'll run C16
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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Short Block:
D16Z6 block
Darton solid-deck ductile iron sleeves
ARP head studs
Crower steel-billet rods
JE custom 9-1 pistons
stock head gasket

Cylinder Head:
D16Z6 SOHC V-TEC cyl. head (unported)
D16Z6 intake manifold (unported, but port matched)
Stock throttle body
ZEX™ valve springs (912-16)
ZEX™ camshaft (59300)
Performance distributor with MSD wires

Induction Set-up:
60-1 Hi-Fi Turbonetics turbo, TO4 exh. with stage 5 wheel (23 PSI boost)
910 cc injectors
2 stage nitrous system, 245 hp (120 hp direct port, 125 single nozzle dry)
Spearco Liquid to Air intercooler

Exhaust:
Turbonetics ported cast turbo manifold w/ custom TO4 flange
3" open down pipe

The engine has powered my 2250 lb. CRX racecar to a best of 10.88 et at 135.20 mph

Later,

ZEX Man
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Man, you make me want to build up a sohc zexman. Nice friggin setup dude.

To the original maker of the thread.
I like your proposed setup....except you could use different sleeves HINT HINT. But I dont think your gonna be able to do a backdoor style intercooler with a 24" core unless your manifold sets the turbo off to the side where your a/c compressor would normally be. On my FR setup you can only use a 20" and its still off centered a bit.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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setup being currently being assembled...

GE sleeved 77mm D16Z6 block
ARP head studs
Eagle H-Beam rods
JE 77mm 9:1 pistons
GE Overbored OEM head gasket
D16Z6 head
Skunk2 intake manifold
GSR or ITR throttle body
GE fuel rail

Turbo Setup:
T3/T04E 46 trim .50 a/r compressor, .48 a/r turbine &lt;-- maybe temporary but gonna use it for now since i have it sitting here.
550-720cc injectors (not sure on size yet)
LoveFab SST Turbo Manifold
2.5" Downpipe (flared to 3")
Greddy Type-R or TiAL Blow Off Valve
Aluminum intercooler piping
PWR Intercooler
Hondata 2B with GM 3Bar Map
3" custom exhaust with magnaflow muffler

well the motor stuff is taken care off but the turbo setup needs to be put together. i sold my old setup to start fresh.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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GE sleeved 78mm D16Z6 block
ARP head studs
Eagle H-Beam rods with upgraded bolts
Endyn Rollerwave 78mm 9.5:1 pistons
Cometic Head Gasket

D16Z6 head completely done up by Endyn.
-Opened combustion chambers and quench pads
-Ferrea valve train
-oversized valves
Skunk2 intake manifold
ITR throttle body
STR Fuel Rail
RC 800cc injectors
Hondata S200 with everything (So I can tune it myself)

For my other setup go here:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=520599

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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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current setup:stock motor d16a6,jrsc 8psi,s-afc,msd btm,255 jr fuel pump,stock injectors,stock tb,dx trans with act lightened flywheel and stage 2 clutch.
new setup:
z6 ge sleeved block 77mm bore
srp pistons
eagle rods with upgraded bolts
a6 head with exospeed cam and valvetrain
sc 61 turbo
fmic(dont know what size yet)
450cc injectors
hondata
y8 im
sfp manifold,maybe?
si trans
350 hp would be nice!so would 11 sec time slips!
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SCD16A6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">current setup:stock motor d16a6,jrsc 8psi,s-afc,msd btm,255 jr fuel pump,stock injectors,stock tb,dx trans with act lightened flywheel and stage 2 clutch.
new setup:
z6 ge sleeved block 77mm bore
srp pistons
eagle rods with upgraded bolts
a6 head with exospeed cam and valvetrain
sc 61 turbo
fmic(dont know what size yet)
450cc injectors
hondata
y8 im
sfp manifold,maybe?
si trans
350 hp would be nice!so would 11 sec time slips!</TD></TR></TABLE>

You will need bigger injectors than 450's.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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how big?i dont know how much boost it will take to get 350 out of her but thats what im aiming for,hopefully more,so what size will i need?
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SCD16A6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how big?i dont know how much boost it will take to get 350 out of her but thats what im aiming for,hopefully more,so what size will i need?</TD></TR></TABLE>

At least 550's because once you get to 350 horse, you will want more!!
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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Looks like the majority of you that posted use Eagle rods. Interesting.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
To the original maker of the thread.
I like your proposed setup....except you could use different sleeves HINT HINT. But I dont think your gonna be able to do a backdoor style intercooler with a 24" core unless your manifold sets the turbo off to the side where your a/c compressor would normally be. On my FR setup you can only use a 20" and its still off centered a bit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea it's going to be way off center, but it should still work hopefully...
Keep em coming guys. I enjoy seeing people representing the sohc!
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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mines is, as of right now...

d16y8 with drag gen 3 kit
stock motor.

build up will consiste of:
BLOCK
b16 rods
supra pistons
nuformz blockguard
stock sleeves
Head
port-n-polish
maybe a turbo cam
cam gear

more stuuf to come, this is just off the top of my head
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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Here's mine

D16Z6 block, stock sleeves
NuformZ blockguard
ARP head studs
Crower rods
Arias 8:1 pistons
20G turbo
HKS SSBOV
D16Z6 ported head
Manley valves
ZEX™ valve springs (912-16)
Custom camshaft
Custom intake manifold
Custom turbo manifold
AEM cam gear
AEM underdrive pulleys
MSD 6AL with blaster2 external coil
MSD BTM
Profec B boost controller
Rebic IV additionnal injectors controller
4 345cc injectors
4 450cc injectors
Custom Air to Air intercooler
3" downpipe and exhaust

Engine made 310whp @ 16psi and ran 12.39 @ 114mph. Car weigth about 2600lbs with me.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 06:49 PM
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CivicTSI is that setup in your daily driver? how long have you run 16psi on stock sleeves? Sweet numbers. Thanks.

Nate
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 05:03 AM
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I don't need my car to go to work so it's not daily driven but it would if I needed to. Running 14psi for 4 years, now running 18-19psi. When I raise the boost, I just don't want to lower it back. Compression is still ok
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 05:14 AM
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guys...

what's the max boost you can run with the stock sleeves in the d16z6 with eagle rods, and je or some forged lower compression pistons, stock bore, w/o damaging the sleeve, and what will that yeild in fwhp/boost? Also what's the max boost the sohc greddy turbo kit, can put out?

Thanks.vnt


Modified by vntperformance at 9:26 AM 8/13/2003
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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Current:
Stock Y8
T3/T04E 57 trim
450cc Injectors
Good Street Turbo Mani
Good Street Turbo Water to Air aftercooler
2.5 inch DP and Exhaust
Hondata

Next Spring:
Profec B
Eagle Rods
SRP 9.1 pistons
ARP Head Studs
Possible valvetrain upgrade
Crower Cam
510cc Injectors
Warlboro Fuel Pump

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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 06:08 AM
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I have run stock sleeves with a blockguard at over 400 whp. The block survives just fine, the only problem is that if you are off just a little bit on your tune-up.....any touch of detonation will split the sleeve. After going through this learning process, take my advice.....save your money and get your block sleeved.

Later,

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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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vntperformance: boost level means nothing, how much power you make at this boost level is another story. On a greddy kit, ~15psi and 250whp.

Zexman: No one will argue that, sleeved block are better otherwise, what would be the point of sleeving it ? But I have a question, is it easier to crack a sleeve with nitrous than boost alone ? Is it trickier to tune nitrous ? Never played with nitrous
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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Thanks, that's all i want is 250fwhp, especially if i don't have to upgrade the turbo.....will i need to change the injectors?

vnt
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vntperformance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks, that's all i want is 250fwhp, especially if i don't have to upgrade the turbo.....will i need to change the injectors?

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hehehe i rememeber when i said that. wow. lol. i was like yah all i want is 200hp... hit that with ease... then i'm like all i want is 200whp. was 7whp away from it at 8psi. now look at me... aiming for 350-400whp now lol. anyway back on topic:

it would be best to get bigger injectors and a good tuning system to reach that 250whp.
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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heh same here. You always want more I myself would stay with stock sleeves if I was absolutely sure I wasn't going to push past 300-350whp, but there will come a time where I would regret not having the block sleeved while it was apart...
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