Engine Rebuilt...Wont Start....
Make sure if you had any work done to the head that the valve lash is still good. You would be amazed especially if any angle jobs were done on the seat. Regardless set the lash and try again.
have you checked for fuel/spark? crank it over and take a plug out and smell it does it have fuel on it? if it does, take all your plug wires out and plug some spark plugs in them, lay it on top of your valve cover and crank it over see if you get fire. If you are getting fuel and fire then check to see if you have your firing order right. 1-3-4-2 . If you have both spark and fuel and everything seems right set your valve lash. HTH
have you checked for fuel/spark? crank it over and take a plug out and smell it does it have fuel on it? if it does, take all your plug wires out and plug some spark plugs in them, lay it on top of your valve cover and crank it over see if you get fire. If you are getting fuel and fire then check to see if you have your firing order right. 1-3-4-2 . If you have both spark and fuel and everything seems right set your valve lash. HTH
True did you adjust the valves. We forgot to do this when I did the valve springs in my last motro and it wouldn't start until we adjusted them correctly.
Well I tryed switching the wires around on the injectors and still the same ****. Just cranks and cranks...So im down to either the the ECU is dead some how...
Or the resistor box + injectors are not = 10 - 13 ohms.
Any other input would be great.
Or the resistor box + injectors are not = 10 - 13 ohms.
Any other input would be great.
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Well I didnt put new springs or anything in all I did was remove the head to take out the pistons and rods so I only removed the cams, so I dont think they should be outta wack. But I will check all the valves and stuff tomarrow. Tomarrow I think im going to put some 10 ohm resistors in inplace of the resistor box and see if that works since im only reading the resistor box and 6ohms which dosent bring the total up to 10-13ohms.
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Well guys I got spark, I got compression, I got fuel....still not starting I dropped a small cap of oil in each cylinder making sure the compression was good. Now when I crank it. It puffs smoke out my breather filter mad style. Any insight on the problem. I havent check my valves yet. Also the timming is all set correct.
Im going nuts!
Im going nuts!
Damn Bro...sorry to hear my advice didn't work.
I really hope you get that bad boy up and running. Wondering if you pluged in everything right? and checked all coolents? If you're getting fuel and spark, you should start right up. My guess now is that it probably has something to do with wiring.
I really hope you get that bad boy up and running. Wondering if you pluged in everything right? and checked all coolents? If you're getting fuel and spark, you should start right up. My guess now is that it probably has something to do with wiring.
u still have your stock injectors? start all over put them back in and see if it will start that will tell you if its the new injectors+resistor box
We had a problem when I did the swap in my friends civic. Traced it down to not getting fuel from the injectors. Easily found by putting a test light on one of the leads on the injectors to see if it's getting pulsed. Our problem was that one of the guys didn't grab the little jumper for the resistor box - so basically there was an open in the system. Once we put it back on, wham-o - started right up.
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u still have your stock injectors? start all over put them back in and see if it will start that will tell you if its the new injectors+resistor box
Im so pissed right now!
personaly i dont think you're getting fuel...
try putting some ether in the plenum
try putting some ether in the plenum
cuz, compression + fuel + spark = vroom & you say youve got all three. does the motor do anything?
here's one for ya if it still don't work
I know how it is when your motor should work & it doesn't.
good luck.
you need to take out the fuel injectors with them in the fuel rail hold them in and tell your friend to crank the motor see if any fuel comes out. I had the same problem, so try this.
Are you sure your distributor isn't 180 out?
I'm putting my money on this right here. Trying taking the distribitor off and rotate it 180 degress and then put it back on and see if that does it. I had the same problem tried everything. Took the dist. off and rotate, fired up first turn.
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Still dosent start
Things I have done:
-Adjusted Valve Lash
-Made sure all timing marks line up
-Made sure firing order on the dissy was right
-Check fuel pump wiring
-Checked resistor box wiring
-Check all afc wiring and settings
-Switched injectors too stock and took out the resistor box
-Put injectors in plastic bags and then cranked the car to make sure they fired
-Did a Compression test, all was good
-Changed spark plugs and checked gaps
-Made sure the dissy was at plug one when cylinder 1 fired
-Checked spark and I have it
All this stuff has all checked out ok and I still cant get this damn thing to run. Any other suggestions.
Things I have done:
-Adjusted Valve Lash
-Made sure all timing marks line up
-Made sure firing order on the dissy was right
-Check fuel pump wiring
-Checked resistor box wiring
-Check all afc wiring and settings
-Switched injectors too stock and took out the resistor box
-Put injectors in plastic bags and then cranked the car to make sure they fired
-Did a Compression test, all was good
-Changed spark plugs and checked gaps
-Made sure the dissy was at plug one when cylinder 1 fired
-Checked spark and I have it
All this stuff has all checked out ok and I still cant get this damn thing to run. Any other suggestions.
are you getting any CELs? what type of engine management are you using? It maybe your ecu is messed up. I'm just taking wild guesses right now. Hmm...but i really think it's something that has to do with the electrical units/system.
You checked for spark order, did you chack for fuel order? it should be brown red/lt blue yellow. You might have changed some wires around while converting to peak and hold. If you plugged #1 clip into #2 injector it will not turn your car over because the firing order is 1/3/4/2 by the time the spark happens in #2 it would have already bleeded of the fuel from the intake charge via the exhaust cam and the little bit of fuel you smell on the spark plug is not sufficent for a burn.
#1(brown) #2(red) #3(lt blu) #4(yel)
# 1 is towards the crank pulley side and #4 is towards the distributor. Chances are when you were cutting the wires and elongating it for the resistor box, the colours might be mixed up as well meaning you might have the right colour on the right injector but u might have mixed a wire where you soldered your joints.
If you have an obd1 check for continuity between
injector 1----- A1
injector 2----- A3
injector 3----- A5
injector 4----- A2
If you have obd2a (96-98) check for continuity between
injector 1----- A4
injector 2----- A3
injector 3----- A2
injector 4----- A1
If you have obd2b (99-00) check for continuity between
injector 1----- B11
injector 2----- B3
injector 3----- B4
injector 4----- B5
If you are hearing a popping sound from your tb it is usually because of this. or wrong firing order. Another way to check if your injectors are not firing at the right time. Take a spray bottle like an empty windex bottle put fuel in it. Who ever is tunring the car tell them to keep the throttle fully open and start spraying on the throttle plate and cranking it over. Be very careful i have had the hair burnt of my arms. Just spray a good amount in and move away do this from time to time. Make sure you don't flood your plugs.
Also if this does not work i hope you are not trying to use an obd0 dist on a 92 and up set up. The cyp and the ckp sensors which help determing the firing order on the obd0 read once every 360 degrees where as the obd1 and 2 read 4 times every 360 or once every 90 degrees. HTH.
try spraying fuel in and tell me what happens. If it is the wrong firing order on the injectors the motor might start up but runs very choppy.
[Modified by HIPEmotorsports, 12:04 AM 3/28/2003]
#1(brown) #2(red) #3(lt blu) #4(yel)
# 1 is towards the crank pulley side and #4 is towards the distributor. Chances are when you were cutting the wires and elongating it for the resistor box, the colours might be mixed up as well meaning you might have the right colour on the right injector but u might have mixed a wire where you soldered your joints.
If you have an obd1 check for continuity between
injector 1----- A1
injector 2----- A3
injector 3----- A5
injector 4----- A2
If you have obd2a (96-98) check for continuity between
injector 1----- A4
injector 2----- A3
injector 3----- A2
injector 4----- A1
If you have obd2b (99-00) check for continuity between
injector 1----- B11
injector 2----- B3
injector 3----- B4
injector 4----- B5
If you are hearing a popping sound from your tb it is usually because of this. or wrong firing order. Another way to check if your injectors are not firing at the right time. Take a spray bottle like an empty windex bottle put fuel in it. Who ever is tunring the car tell them to keep the throttle fully open and start spraying on the throttle plate and cranking it over. Be very careful i have had the hair burnt of my arms. Just spray a good amount in and move away do this from time to time. Make sure you don't flood your plugs.
Also if this does not work i hope you are not trying to use an obd0 dist on a 92 and up set up. The cyp and the ckp sensors which help determing the firing order on the obd0 read once every 360 degrees where as the obd1 and 2 read 4 times every 360 or once every 90 degrees. HTH.
try spraying fuel in and tell me what happens. If it is the wrong firing order on the injectors the motor might start up but runs very choppy.
[Modified by HIPEmotorsports, 12:04 AM 3/28/2003]
While doing a B16 swap into a CRX we had a similar situation.. It had fuel and spark, everything seemed in order. All it would do is turn over. Turned out it was a lose ground causing the problem. Tighten the ground.. Fired right up.
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Thats weird im gunna check the ground and injector wires again tomarrow...but how does the grounding not being proper affect the car from starting?
ignitor on the dist? i glanced through the post and didnt read that anywhere. you could see spark on my friends, smell fuel, and it would turn over nicely but the spark wasnt enough(but it was visible).


