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Old 06-14-2007, 10:01 PM
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Default Engine builders....is this normal?

Well i was looking at the piston to wall clearance and it looks kinda big. The shop foreman said it was ok, but its bugging me. These are 81.5mm cp's. . I figured it might be ok because it does not move at all front to back just side to side. Anyone?

I dont have a gauge to read diameter of cylinder. The guy took the reading at the shop and one cylinder showed up at 81.3~ bore up top. He said this was within spec.

Old 06-14-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: Engine builders....is this normal? (mitsuman)

The pistons are tapered slightly. Piston to wall clearance is measured near the bottom of the skirt.
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That's correct.
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Yup, it looks good!! My does the same thing on 81.5mm CP pistons!
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Sounds about right...

I measured my piston-to-wall clearance by placing the piston upside down since I didn't have the extra long thickness gauges. Besides, doesn't CP have good repeatible pistons that are accurate to 0.0001"? I wish I knew about them when I rebuilt my engine.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaze the chemi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Besides, doesn't CP have good repeatible pistons that are accurate to 0.0001"? </TD></TR></TABLE>

A wiseman (R.I.P.) once said that CP pistons are so accurate that he can hone the block and drop them in without even needing to measure the pistons.
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Thanks guys. I feel MUCH better.
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dont worry about the movement, it is probably built a little loose for boost. We just pulled the head off my friends 85mm car and his pistons have side to side play also with his CP's.
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Have you installed all pistons yet? You might want to check and measure it yourself.
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all pistons were installed by a reputable local shop.
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Default Re: Engine builders....is this normal? (mitsuman)

CP pistons are built with the clearance built directly in them. This means that the pistons on a turbo app. actually come 3.5 thou. smaller then the desired bore size. So when you bore and hone a block for 81.5mm, the machine shops job would be to put the block right on 81.5mm and not even a hair larger. If it was, you would have too much clearance. The motor will run if it is larger, but that is when you start to hear noise.
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That's for sure
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y not measure the bore?
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I always take the pistons when i take a block to get bored/honed at the machine shop, tell them what piston to cyl wall clearance I want and its done with, perfect everytime
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It seems a tad loose to me, but I'm guessing you don't have them on the rods or rings installed either. I gave my wisecos ~0030" clearance, and I've yet to hear any piston slap on cold startup. I've also burned zero oil over the total of 2146 miles I have so far on them.
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mmmm if CP pistons have the clearance built in, then why do they send instructions with them on figuring up your clearance?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOOLINmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mmmm if CP pistons have the clearance built in, then why do they send instructions with them on figuring up your clearance?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They do not give recommendations on figuring bore clearance, they give you recommendations on how to file fit rings on one sheet. Then they give you a sheet on piston specs. Last they give you a sheet on what grit to hone with and how to finish the hone aka plateau. They do not offer size as or clearance as that like I stated above is built directly into the piston
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