underpressure02

My friend is about to go turbo and is trying to find a good ems for his car. I know AEM EMS you can use with obd 0 but what other ems are out there for obd 0? Can you use uberdata or hondata? I was under the impression that for hondata he would have to go to obd1.

EM1 MIKE

He would have to convert to OBD1 for hondata and I would ASSume uberdata would be the same. What about Crome or Zdyne?

mattssi

I didn't think aem made a ems for non obd cars? I have heard that zdyne is good. And the gold setup allows you to have complete datalogging controll just like the aem ems. I would go zdyne on a non obd car.

underpressure02

I could have sworn my friend was using aem on his crx obd0. He may have converted to obd1 though.

86si

zdyne

USDM 4G VTEC

His best options are:

1- Go OBD1 and use a normal AEM EMS for OBD1
2- Go and do Turbo Edit
3- Zdyne SECU (900 bones is a lot)
4- Go OBD1 and use Uberdata

leed

No datalogging on the Zdyne unfortunately.
Check out http://www.turboedit.org/ for TurboEdit, and http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...ard=6 for a lot of broke *** guys that are running it.

CHEETAH

iTrader: (2)

i use the 1000 ems box in my street crx, use conversion harness obd0 to obd1

greg

slowpokesi

you can use ems with a obd0 car you just need a obd0-obd1 jumper harness so that it will plug in, but the ems will work with the obd0 distro.

uberdata- obd1 conversion with injectors, distro, ecu, conversion harness
hondata- same thing
zdyne- plug n play but no datalogging
turboedit- i dont think it supports b16a yet

leed

If you can locate a PS9 ECU, 1-wire vtec is tested and working w/ TurboEdit.

ICeDoUt

yea so this post is up for me, i am running an obd0 b16, kinda don't wanna convert cause then it'll just end up costing as much as a zdyne unit would. So whats all involved in turbo edit? i was thinking just running an safc for now then upgrading to a standalone later. whats the best way?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowpokesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turboedit- i dont think it supports b16a yet</TD></TR></TABLE>
is this true?

i don't wanna go cheap but i wanna be boosting

USDM 4G VTEC

if u have a VTEC controller anyways on ur car u can use turbo edit

the vtec controller anyways will still override the vtec signal from the ecu to the solenoid

turboedit does support the B16, theres already dual maps on it.... IGN hi and low and Fuel High and low

slowpokesi

when i was trying to use turboedit, the maps only went to 7400 (3 -4 weeks ago)
so what do i do about the other 800 rpms?

ICeDoUt

is there a newer turboedit program? or newer maps that go up to 8200?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDM 4G VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u have a VTEC controller anyways on ur car u can use turbo edit

the vtec controller anyways will still override the vtec signal from the ecu to the solenoid

turboedit does support the B16, theres already dual maps on it.... IGN hi and low and Fuel High and low

</TD></TR></TABLE>

And how does a vtec controler have to do with running turboedit?

rioninja

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowpokesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when i was trying to use turboedit, the maps only went to 7400 (3 -4 weeks ago)
so what do i do about the other 800 rpms?</TD></TR></TABLE>

OBD0 vtec ecus such as the PW0 and the PR3 only have fuel and timing maps up to
7400 also. Fueling requirements dont change much after peak torque.

slowpokesi

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rioninja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

OBD0 vtec ecus such as the PW0 and the PR3 only have fuel and timing maps up to
7400 also. Fueling requirements dont change much after peak torque. </TD></TR></TABLE>

okay so i dont get it, you said the ps9 would work for b16a, and vtec. now im asking you do the maps go up to 8200.

explain to me how it works.

USDM 4G VTEC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ICeDoUt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there a newer turboedit program? or newer maps that go up to 8200?

And how does a vtec controler have to do with running turboedit?</TD></TR></TABLE>

most people i know with OBDO and VTEC motors, have a vtec controller anyways

if u have a B16 for example, and u have a vtec controller already, u are good to go using turboedit with a PM6 and being able to tune the motor and dont worry about vtec since the controller will take care of it

ICeDoUt

so basically with turboedit i have to use a diff ecu other then a pw0 or pr3?

B18CXr

i use the 1000 ems box in my street crx, use conversion harness obd0 to obd1
greg




what greg said, i've done these before, runs perfectly fine

rioninja

I was merely using the pw0 and pr3 as an example, as to the fuel maps only going to 7400.
To use turboedit for vtec, you WILL need either a PS9, or PM6 with appropriate hardware added.