efficiency of a straight t3 off of a thunderbird?

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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a t3 from a thunderbird how much boost can u run b4 itz starts losein power?
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prhatch124 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a t3 from a thunderbird how much boost can u run before it starts losing power?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it is roughly the same turbo from the gn, they ran out of breath on them at 20 psi, with a water to air, i ran mine to 30-32 psi, but that was asking ALOT.

GM desinged the gn to run about 1 bar over atmosphere. so i would think 14-17 psi would be the sweet spot.

i am really tired and could be 100% wrong, but the exp of 30-32 was true.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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The GB turbo was a little different in terms of the housing, but the compressor it uses can do 20psi before it starts lossing efficiency badly. 19psi is the sweet spot, but thats assuming 19psi at the turbo's outlet.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it is roughly the same turbo from the gn,</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not really, GN's got a T04B compressor; only factory T3/T04 hybrid made.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 03:22 AM
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Not really, GN's got a T04B compressor; only factory T3/T04 hybrid made.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i stand corrected then,

i was always told they were straight t3's.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 06:23 AM
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I had one of those T-Bird Turbo Coupes (an early, non-intercooled one, so maybe they upgraded the turbo when they went to the later versions) and that turbo was the most pathetic piece of crap I've ever experienced. Clearly it didn't push any kind of volume. There was a nice surge, and then it fell right on its face. . . Garbage!
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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It's a 275-300 whp turbo, and fine for what it is.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tjabo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had one of those T-Bird Turbo Coupes (an early, non-intercooled one, so maybe they upgraded the turbo when they went to the later versions) and that turbo was the most pathetic piece of crap I've ever experienced. Clearly it didn't push any kind of volume. There was a nice surge, and then it fell right on its face. . . Garbage!</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats funny
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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thankz for info guyz
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Joseph Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not really, GN's got a T04B compressor; only factory T3/T04 hybrid made.</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.gnttype.org/techare....html

If thats a t04b compressor, its a really sad one. REALLY sad compressor. It states the stocker was 390cfm, and a tiny 50trim T3 is maxed at 395cfm at ~16 psi. Maybe the GNX, but not the 'vanilla' GN. Even if under-rated, 245bhp would be ~210 at the wheels with a Honda trans, and we know a t3 60trim can do way more than 210whp at just 7psi.

JD, I'm calling you out. Seriously though, I'd like to see your info. Pulling apart one car and finding thinking an upgraded stock turbo doesn't count
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Sign up for Fanglers on yahoogroups.com and search for posts by Bruce "Grumpy" Plecan, aka Black Car Bruce, aka the Godfather of GM ECUs, aka now deceased and baiting poor unsuspecting Z06 in heaven.
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