hi guys i just wanted to know if it was true some on told me
they had a problem with their bolts someting aboult bolts not holding up
is this true i would like to know because i have a set laying around i was intending on using they held up before wen i was making 400whp but know i willl be pushing them pretty hard i need some feedback pls... PL

 

It had something to do with the bolts in the end of them. They switched to ARP bolts and everything is supposedly peachy now.

 

The old bolts were a 5/16" diameter, the new bolts are 3/8" diameter. This change has made the rods much stronger for an overseas made rod.

 

I haven't had any problems with the 5/16" ARP's yet. I built the engine about 2 1/2 years ago.

 

I talked to Eagle on this awhile ago. They said there was no prob with the old ones. They said becuase of bench racers on here spreading the false info that they decided to upgrade to help the sales get back on track.

I ran them in 2 motors with no probs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I talked to Eagle on this awhile ago. They said there was no prob with the old ones. They said becuase of bench racers on here spreading the false info that they decided to upgrade to help the sales get back on track.

I ran them in 2 motors with no probs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I actually remember someone from Eagle posting that in a thread on here too.

 

Never heard of the recal before, used a set of the 5/16 on an old set up with no problem and now using set on a build with the 3/8 bolts in an h22 can't wait! will start today you have probably seen the post on the build under BigBlock!!!

 

eagles with the 3/8 bolt used them in 3 builds all with numbers in the 400's no problems

 

ok thx guys for the good replies
i will upgrade the bolts just in case
thx for the feed back

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I talked to Eagle on this awhile ago. They said there was no prob with the old ones. They said becuase of bench racers on here spreading the false info that they decided to upgrade to help the sales get back on track. </TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, I called BS to Eagle on that line of bull. No way in hell a manufacturer is going to change their COMPLETE rod line because of a couple of bench racers thoughts. Eagle tech help is useless. Prove me wrong, Eagle.

 

i've seen a couple of motors get fubared by eagles yrs back..i even streched 1 of the rod bolts back on a allmotor setup...it did have the 5/16bolts.....but then again i have to give them a little bump...because i beat the hell out of the motor...it lasted about 9500miles....now i use manley or crower rods

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, I called BS to Eagle on that line of bull. No way in hell a manufacturer is going to change their COMPLETE rod line because of a couple of bench racers thoughts. Eagle tech help is useless. Prove me wrong, Eagle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn earl them are fightin' werds. Good thinking tho it makes logical sense. Eagle? Care to comment?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, I called BS to Eagle on that line of bull. No way in hell a manufacturer is going to change their COMPLETE rod line because of a couple of bench racers thoughts. Eagle tech help is useless. Prove me wrong, Eagle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How many have you personally built that you can garuntee were set up correctly and broke?
not going by what whomever said or what you saw. Just what you built?

If their sales were down because of %90 of the big time Honda tuners are on here and see the bad repping. Yes their sales would go down. Yes they made a smart move and upgraded so no one else has anything to say now
I can just tell you I ran them on 2 motors with no flaw. One even detonated bad and nothing wrong with the rods them selves.

To change their whole line though? No , they already made them, just offered as an upgrade just as Pauter did.
So they really only made it a standard option instead of a choice it looks like.

 

I'm going to have to agree with itr206 on this one. With 165,000 current members on Honda-Tech I do believe a company may change their product slightly because of what members of this community want. In fact, alot of manufacturers have come on here just to guage an interest in a product to see if it's worth making and if it would sell. Why wouldn't they change an existing product to gain more sales?

 

I got a bridge in Brooklyn I'm gonna sell you guys real cheap

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I haven't had any problems with the 5/16" ARP's yet. I built the engine about 2 1/2 years ago.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea but what are you guys revving to?

the reason they switched was because at high rpm's the old thinner bolts would stretch and spin some of those things called bearings underneath em

 

My buddy ran Eagles in his 4g63 DSM motor and snapped all four rods..

He was running a GT30R at about 28psi and a 150shot of nitrous.
He said the car was properly tuned. The car was ALWAYS ran on C16, Nothing less.
He was on the highway and did alittle 3rd gear kickdown and this is what happened......

 

them bolts look fine to me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by safe driver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">them bolts look fine to me. </TD></TR></TABLE> yep... looks like the rod need sum upgreadin, not so much the bolt, looks like the broken arm from the T1000 (Terminator 2)

 

I spun mine to 9200 rpms
Its touch and go. If you sell them you praise them, if you dont then you praise something else.
I personally havent had problems and dont believe the **** talk.

 

I guess that's why they call them birdy rods... they like to fly out block.

 

should i keep thos rods or upgrade to someting else ?
iam gana be pushing my setup pretty hard next summer
i wouldnt want someting like that to happend to me beh

is this an issolated problem or thos it occure regularly with thes rods??

 

depends on your power goals and how deep your pockets are

 

my power goal is mid 600 and i have a setup that will support it
as far as my pocket goes i spent so mutch cash on my new setup its crazy
but i should be able to pick up another set wath would you guys recomend for that kind of power?????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I spun mine to 9200 rpms</TD></TR></TABLE>

Only 8000 here.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted1g &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My buddy ran Eagles in his 4g63 DSM motor and snapped all four rods..
He was running a GT30R at about 28psi and a 150shot of nitrous.
He said the car was properly tuned. The car was ALWAYS ran on C16, Nothing less.
He was on the highway and did alittle 3rd gear kickdown and this is what happened......
</TD></TR></TABLE>

How much power was this guy making?